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The internet has been stolen from you. Take it back, nonviolently

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Re: The internet has been stolen from you. Take it back, nonviolently

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It seems to me like the Merkle DAG decentralized infrastructure with by far the most momentum right now is IPFS. It would be great to have a usable social network developed on top of that.

This article seems to culminate in a call to action to support a github project consisting solely of a README.md. I think a call-to-action post that is much better than this one is the archive.org one: http://blog.archive.org/2015/02/11/locking-the-web-open-a-ca...

Re: The internet has been stolen from you. Take it back, nonviolently

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It seems to me like the Merkle DAG decentralized infrastructure with by far the most momentum right now is IPFS. It would be great to have a usable social network developed on top of that. This article seems to culminate in a call to action to support a github project consisting solely of a README.md. I think a call-to-action post that is much better than this one is the archive.org one: http://blog.archive.org/2015/…

[CORRECTION/RETRACTION]: I misunderstood ipfs. You can totally edit your DAG in ipfs (which gives you "delete" ability). So Yes cypherpunks01 is completely right.

The explanation of how you do "deletes" in a DAG still stands.

[Original comment:] ipfs doesn't have delete. It's basically a global immutable data store. Brilliantly well suited for a "permanent web" but not well suited for the kind of communication where people want to edit or delete the stuff they've put out in the past.

Re: The internet has been stolen from you. Take it back, nonviolently

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Posted on Medium, a central, private, for-profit publishing platform. Oh the irony.

+1. And you read it because you're visiting hackernews (also central, private, for-profit). It's a systemic problem. That's why we need new tools that let us operate outside that system.

Re: The internet has been stolen from you. Take it back, nonviolently

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It seems to me like the Merkle DAG decentralized infrastructure with by far the most momentum right now is IPFS. It would be great to have a usable social network developed on top of that. This article seems to culminate in a call to action to support a github project consisting solely of a README.md. I think a call-to-action post that is much better than this one is the archive.org one: http://blog.archive.org/2015/…

[CORRECTION/RETRACTION]: I misunderstood ipfs. You can totally edit your DAG in ipfs (which gives you "delete" ability). So Yes cypherpunks01 is completely right. The explanation of how you do "deletes" in a DAG still stands. [Original comment:] ipfs doesn't have delete. It's basically a global immutable data store. Brilliantly well suited for a "permanent web" but not well suited for the kind of communication where…

Isn't the purpose of any merkle-dag infrastructure to be an immutable data store? How does hypercore support editing in this way?

Re: The internet has been stolen from you. Take it back, nonviolently

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It seems to me like the Merkle DAG decentralized infrastructure with by far the most momentum right now is IPFS. It would be great to have a usable social network developed on top of that. This article seems to culminate in a call to action to support a github project consisting solely of a README.md. I think a call-to-action post that is much better than this one is the archive.org one: http://blog.archive.org/2015/…

[CORRECTION/RETRACTION]: I misunderstood ipfs. You can totally edit your DAG in ipfs (which gives you "delete" ability). So Yes cypherpunks01 is completely right. The explanation of how you do "deletes" in a DAG still stands. [Original comment:] ipfs doesn't have delete. It's basically a global immutable data store. Brilliantly well suited for a "permanent web" but not well suited for the kind of communication where…

With archives, bots, etc. you can't really "delete" stuff now and be certain its gone forever.

Re: The internet has been stolen from you. Take it back, nonviolently

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I don't get this article. Other than defining a bunch of new words, what are they exactly saying the problem is, and what are they saying the solution is? Just saying that is complete nonsense. And the problem seems to be but they never really say what.

I take it as being about who holds (and therefore owns) the data. It's not that the corporations are evil, it's that we're operating in a system where only the corporations get to accumulate the data in their hands.

Re: The internet has been stolen from you. Take it back, nonviolently

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I don't get this article. Other than defining a bunch of new words, what are they exactly saying the problem is, and what are they saying the solution is? Just saying that is complete nonsense. And the problem seems to be but they never really say what.

The problem:

> The internet has been stolen from you. Scooped out of your hands without much of a fuss. A small number of corporations are locked in a zero-sum game of land grabs.

The solution:

> The solution is to decentralize further, relying on a peer-to-peer model...In short, create an app, one that you run on your computer or phone, that writes social data (aka “posts”) into local databases and then replicates those databases to peers using a peer-to-peer protocol

Directly from the article, and it's surprisingly detailed in implementation suggestions - I'm forced to conclude your lack of understanding is willful.

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