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That's not exactly true. A lot of REIs are built on complex structures. The SF estate market might be fueling other investments. Once one starts to collapse it can have a domino effect. Basically if investors were expecting 10% annual return and you tell them this year might be 1-2% they'll take that money and move it elsewhere. Now you have to raise money or sell. When I used to live in downtown Miami there were hig…
REI means Real Estate Index? Or do you mean REIT (RE Investment Trust)?
San Francisco Home Prices Fell for the First Time in Four Years in March
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Re: San Francisco Home Prices Fell for the First Time in Four Years in March
#122It's always hard to believe the numbers, but I trust Redfin since I used them to purchase my home. I think the problem is comparing what's turn key and not. For example they say: > Portland, OR had the nation’s highest price growth, rising 16.1% since last year to $325,000... The problem is you're fighting 100's of people for that one house in Portland that is livable at $325,000. Most houses that cheap need a ton of…
When you factor in these hidden costs, things start to look very overpriced around here. I expect that in the next five years there will be a lot of disgruntled owners putting these houses back up at purchase price (or maybe even less) after they get sick of dealing with the problems and start to realize the price tag to fix them.
In the interim, the bad news is that Portland is basically out of housing stock at this point too. Expect more rentals and condos in the future.
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#123A bit of an anecdote because the article mentions my town specifically - Tacoma: We put our house on the market Friday, April 8th, a bit below the "redfin estimate" - I saw it had gone live by 11am and we already had an interested party set up a viewing by 12pm. We showed the house 11 times by Monday morning and had 5 offers, some 12k above asking price. We accepted an offer by Tuesday (April 12). My head is still sp…
Joking aside, you're in the Central District. Sales are hot north of I-5/SR-16 because a lot of the infrastructure up there is being rebuilt. South End is still a high poverty area with not a lot going on. In fact, the only major grocery store south of 56th anymore is the Fred Meyer on 72nd and Pacific Ave (not the best place to visit at night).
As someone who grew up here, Tacoma still has a long way to go.
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#124Reaffirming once again that if "nobody can afford to buy them" the actual prices start coming down. A more interesting thing for me however was that owner occupied (which is to say the person buying the house lives there) has not been growing[1]. Instead third parties are buying the houses as investments and renting them. That is a really risky strategy in a place like SF with rent controls as the floor can fall out…
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Out of curiosity, do you know how many of your offers were from foreign nationals? I've seen some articles talking about how overseas investors are driving up property prices and was wondering if it was true in your case.
A different market, but I think the Chinese Money thing is a bit overblown. The San Francisco and San Jose metro areas ranked ninth and sixth from the bottom, with all-cash deals representing only 28 and 24 percent of purchases, respectively. All-cash sales in San Francisco peaked at 36 percent in the first quarter of 2010, Zillow said. http://www.sfchronicle.com/business/networth/article/All-cas...
I doubt it's overblown.
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Why isn't this drying up in Canada then?
It's easier to become a naturalized Canadian for Chinese nationals, isn't it? Maybe the Chinese buying homes in the Canadian market are actually planning to move there and raise kids (as opposed to pure speculation in the US market).
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/13/world/americas/canada-vanc...
Re: San Francisco Home Prices Fell for the First Time in Four Years in March
#127It's always hard to believe the numbers, but I trust Redfin since I used them to purchase my home. I think the problem is comparing what's turn key and not. For example they say: > Portland, OR had the nation’s highest price growth, rising 16.1% since last year to $325,000... The problem is you're fighting 100's of people for that one house in Portland that is livable at $325,000. Most houses that cheap need a ton of…
An observation I've also had is that not many people factor in time, maintenance and repair costs when considering Portland homes. I've looked at $350k houses here that are complete junk without another $50-200k in (I'm not just talking kitchen remodels, just as often I see serious roof and water damage problems), and therefore really are priced at $450-600k. Real estate brokers have been.. less than stellar about di…
It's not a strategy I'd bet on myself, but it has worked in many cities in the (recent) past.
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#128I guess what I'm asking is, did SF housing prices merely fall back to where they were in 2013? Or all the way back to where they were in, say, 2009?
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From the article: >> "...historically low inventory" >> "...many sellers are sitting this year out." >> "...The median sale price ... fell by 1.8 percent..." The article's authors are confused. Their explanation for falling prices consists entirely of "Supply is down." That's exactly the opposite of how supply, demand, and prices are related. If they wanted to claim that low prices are scaring sellers out of the mark…
In Cambridge, a faction of candidates for city council promises that they will make housing affordable by opposing the construction of new housing. Apparently you can just tell people that supply and demand work the opposite way in the housing market, and people will believe you.
Re: San Francisco Home Prices Fell for the First Time in Four Years in March
#130However, these companies don't seem to be preparing for an IPO anytime soon.