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Google App Engine Silently Stopped Sending Email 5 Weeks Ago

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Re: Google App Engine Silently Stopped Sending Email 5 Weeks Ago

#21

Don't use appengine for anything -- ever. It's a terrible platform/product and google would rather you move on to GCE anyway...

> google would rather you move on to GCE anyway...

That's not true. We continue to invest heavily in App Engine as a platform.

Re: Google App Engine Silently Stopped Sending Email 5 Weeks Ago

#22

Must be an isolated issue. I run two App Engine apps and send 30K emails a day and I haven't noticed any change in my email open/click stats, which implies that emails are being delivered as usual.

Well, that is one of the problems I kept hitting when I was on App Engine ... issues that "only" impact 10% of customers.

Re: Google App Engine Silently Stopped Sending Email 5 Weeks Ago

#24
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I've been getting bounces on Google Apps hosted gmail for calendar notifications coming from calendar-notification@google.com Email is hard.

For programmers, maybe. Running mail servers is a sysadmin task. (I mean no attack here, this is plain statement)

Running a mail server is simple, even for programmers.

Running a mail server with reliable outbound delivery, and inbound spam filtering, is anything but simple.

Re: Google App Engine Silently Stopped Sending Email 5 Weeks Ago

#28
I wonder if people at Google know how awful it is to report an Appengine bug. You have to battle for days to get your bug acknowledged.

I've noticed that they've added more support people since the early days but it's still a pain as they seem to have an incentive to answer the tickets as fast as possible without doing any real investigation.

The linked issue is a good example of this behavior.

Re: Google App Engine Silently Stopped Sending Email 5 Weeks Ago

#29

Reading through the thread, it looks like in the last few days it's been narrowed down to "messages which contain the URL of the App Engine instance silently disappear with no bounces or errors."

That seems to be the case for my app.

It was sending an HTML email with the appspot domain used for the logo: https://example.appspot.com/images/logo.png

Changing that to http://www.example.com/images/logo.png fixed the problem, but now I have to host the image elsewhere on a HTTPS enabled domain.

A separate question is what has google done with all the messages that users of this app sent? Are they gone for good, or stuck in a queue somewhere?

Re: Google App Engine Silently Stopped Sending Email 5 Weeks Ago

#30

I wonder if people at Google know how awful it is to report an Appengine bug. You have to battle for days to get your bug acknowledged. I've noticed that they've added more support people since the early days but it's still a pain as they seem to have an incentive to answer the tickets as fast as possible without doing any real investigation. The linked issue is a good example of this behavior.

They should be working on a migration tool for users of AppEngine to migrate to Google Container Engine.
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