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Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by jongalloway2 »

enjoy-your-stay wrote: post #212
neves wrote: post #130

VSCode knockouts Atom in a dispute for becoming a developer editor in a corporate computer. Sure, you all have root password in your computer. Unfortunately, I belong to a lower race: the corporate developer. I work in a Windows 7 machine, don't have root password and there's a big wall called proxy around me. I didn't know about VSCode before this HN post, but I was trying to use a new editor instead of Notepad++. I…

Just wanted to say I find Notepad++ to be an excellent tabbed editor, especially for XML or SQL. I use it on windows all the time and really miss it on OS X where I find Textmate to be a bit awkward.

I've been a long-time fan of Notepad++, but it's a text editor. You can extend it to make it work better with specific programming languages (e.g. here's a post I wrote 10 years ago about adding language support http://weblogs.asp.net/jongalloway/creating-a-user-defined-l...) but it's fundamentally a text editor.

VS Code is a code editor. It has IntelliSense (not text-matched autocomplete, IntelliSense), debugging support, git integration, parameter hints, go to definition, code peek, etc. (http://code.visualstudio.com/docs/editor/editingevolved). The goal is to give you code editing features with the speed and simplicity of a text editor.

They're both free and lightweight, so I use them both pretty much daily.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by ld00d »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #226

I'm a bit confused by people's praise of VS Code. Are people really writing software with anything less featured than that? As someone who uses Visual Studio for everything, I have a hard time understanding how people can get anything done in Atom/Sublime/Notepad++/etc.

VS Code runs on non-Windows systems for starters.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by carussell »

Kequc wrote: post #240
frik wrote: post #82

Does VSCode 1.0 still come with the tracking and analytics (phone home stuff) that cannot be turned off?

The second sentence in the first paragraph suggests they are actively performing some form of tracking. > Today, we’re excited to report that more than 500,000 developers actively use VS Code each month. I've come to expect Microsoft is just going to do that, and it needs to be accepted if you want to use their stuff. Fighting against it is a recipe for a headache. Unfortunately (or fortunately) this editor is great…

If you build from source instead of downloading from code.visualstudio.com, those things are disabled by default.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by neves »

neves wrote: post #219
wlesieutre wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Googled part of this for you: >Why not just set up atom to use your existing corporate proxy? "Many of these text editors support proxy servers, but none of them that I have tried support NTLM for authentication and if your corporate proxy is using NTLM they simply cannot connect to it. Or lets say not directly! Actually the only solution I have found is to use a software called CNTLM that can act as a proxy server i…

I thought they were, but the simple installation of the column select mode failed with a message of missing compiler. I don't want to delve inside my editor internals. The first difficult thing is to discover that I have to install the sublime-style-column-selection package. So it failed and didn't researched more.

Ops, I've just tried it to see the error message and it worked! The sysadmins just updated a lot of Windows patches, maybe it solved the problem. BTW: VSCodes starts a lot quicker than Atom.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by Mikeb85 »

aldanor wrote: post #242
Mikeb85 wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> and both have non-terminal interfaces. > I don't need an instruction manual to figure out how to close VSCode. To close GVim, you click the 'x' in the upper right/left corner, like any other window.

To close the GUI Emacs, you may just click the X as well.

True, how did I forget?

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by jasonjei »

neves wrote: post #130

VSCode knockouts Atom in a dispute for becoming a developer editor in a corporate computer. Sure, you all have root password in your computer. Unfortunately, I belong to a lower race: the corporate developer. I work in a Windows 7 machine, don't have root password and there's a big wall called proxy around me. I didn't know about VSCode before this HN post, but I was trying to use a new editor instead of Notepad++. I…

How do corporate developers test and debug things without the root password? In some cases, you need to be able to start Visual Studio in UAC mode, and debug an already running process...

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by marssaxman »

vacri wrote: post #201
marssaxman wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I don't need them, and would rather focus my attention on the part of the job I actually care about. The simplest tool which doesn't waste my time is the best. I have found that I would rather use a simple editor with no features that I never have to think about, and automate repetitive tasks using the same tools I already use for automating repetitive tasks: programming languages.

So... you'd rather spend the time writing new code to do repetitive tasks rather than use existing ones? You'd rather spend time writing 'search and replace' in your favourite language than just use an editor with it? I don't see how that doesn't waste your time.

I'm happy to spend a little extra time every now and then doing some unusual task by hand in exchange for never having to think about the editor or try to remember how some powerful, infrequently-used feature works. As long as the editor can do everything I want to do on a daily basis, I'm happy; if it can also automate tasks I only have to do every week or two or every couple of months, it's a waste, because it'll take some effort to remember that the feature exists, what it's called, where to find it, and how to use it. I'd rather just use a simpler editor and deal with that oddball task in whatever way is convenient when it comes up. Since I spend all day slinging code, bashing up a little script to do some odd code-munging job is no trouble; I already have all the tools I need to do that paged into my working memory.

I was thinking more of the sorts of automatic refactoring tools some people really like to use in their IDEs. I haven't found that such tools save enough time to be worth learning how to use them.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by anon4 »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #24

VSCode has done the thing that nobody expected MS to do, change the way code was written on Unix/Linux. I love linux/unix, but the problem always was with the lack of an awesome text editor cum IDE, yep there is eclipse but it is too clunky, I do not like sublime as it isn't FOSS (call me crazy), gedit took way too much memory, geany is fast and mean but the UI sucks plus functionality isn't that great. Enter VSCode,…

What about Code::Blocks and KDevelop?

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by klodolph »

enjoy-your-stay wrote: post #212
neves wrote: post #130

VSCode knockouts Atom in a dispute for becoming a developer editor in a corporate computer. Sure, you all have root password in your computer. Unfortunately, I belong to a lower race: the corporate developer. I work in a Windows 7 machine, don't have root password and there's a big wall called proxy around me. I didn't know about VSCode before this HN post, but I was trying to use a new editor instead of Notepad++. I…

Just wanted to say I find Notepad++ to be an excellent tabbed editor, especially for XML or SQL. I use it on windows all the time and really miss it on OS X where I find Textmate to be a bit awkward.

Coming from OS X, there are a bunch of minor things missing in Notepad++ that I'm used to having on OS X. Like the ability to drag tabs between windows with the mouse, to move new tabs to a new window, or to create a new file and immediately save it. The scrolling in Notepad++ is also a little buggy. Just to give you a perspective about what the other side thinks, since you inevitably develop different habits in different editors, and those habits break when you switch.

That said, I use too many editors for my own good. (I'm active in both main churches.) Neither Notepad++ nor TextMate are competitive with VS Code, Emacs, or Vim, IMO, and I use all five regularly.

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