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Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by vacri »

marssaxman wrote: post #194
coryrc wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why spend a few hours over the course of 60000+ working hours to learn how to use more effective tools?

Because I don't need them, and would rather focus my attention on the part of the job I actually care about. The simplest tool which doesn't waste my time is the best. I have found that I would rather use a simple editor with no features that I never have to think about, and automate repetitive tasks using the same tools I already use for automating repetitive tasks: programming languages.

So... you'd rather spend the time writing new code to do repetitive tasks rather than use existing ones? You'd rather spend time writing 'search and replace' in your favourite language than just use an editor with it? I don't see how that doesn't waste your time.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by dom96 »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #175
dom96 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> gedit took way too much memory Can you elaborate?

I am fine with it taking as much memory as it took. It is a great replacement for notepad, but that's what it is. wrong tool otherwise for a large project.

How much memory did it take? I assume that gedit would be very lightweight in terms of memory usage, maybe you hit a memory leak?

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by granos »

crispyambulance wrote: post #149
coryrc wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why spend a few hours over the course of 60000+ working hours to learn how to use more effective tools?

"a few hours" ??? Come on, let's not pretend that EMACS is going to take "a few hours" to come to terms with and become more productive in than an IDE.

I actually switched from VS to vim (while doing a project that integrated ironruby and C#). It took me about a week to reach 75-80% effectiveness with vim. At the end of 2 weeks I was back to full speed. At the end of 2 months I was considerably more effective at editing code. I'm now several years and several jobs removed from that initial project and I can't imagine not using vim.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by coredog64 »

dubdubbub wrote: post #172
neves wrote: post #130

VSCode knockouts Atom in a dispute for becoming a developer editor in a corporate computer. Sure, you all have root password in your computer. Unfortunately, I belong to a lower race: the corporate developer. I work in a Windows 7 machine, don't have root password and there's a big wall called proxy around me. I didn't know about VSCode before this HN post, but I was trying to use a new editor instead of Notepad++. I…

> Atom was knocked out in the first minute. 'knocked out'? > must install a column mode extension, need to install a ntlm proxy authentication downloaded from (argh!) Sourceforge Why not just set up atom to use your existing corporate proxy? > failed to install the extension because it needs a compiler Sounds like bullshit, what extension? > You've got a new fan VSCode! So all of your complaints about atom are actual…

I have admin and can install anything locally, but also I can't get any Atom packages to install from behind our proxy. That's okay -- I just wait until I have my laptop on my WiFi network at home and everything is copacetic.

It's not just me -- we had a trainer giving a class, & this guy lived and breathed Atom and he couldn't install an updated version of an existing package from our network either. His solution was to tether his phone.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by TAForObvReasons »

neves wrote: post #130

VSCode knockouts Atom in a dispute for becoming a developer editor in a corporate computer. Sure, you all have root password in your computer. Unfortunately, I belong to a lower race: the corporate developer. I work in a Windows 7 machine, don't have root password and there's a big wall called proxy around me. I didn't know about VSCode before this HN post, but I was trying to use a new editor instead of Notepad++. I…

> To quickly test a new general code editor I just want 3 "simple" things: column selection, regexp search and replace, and a python mode.

What do you mean by python mode? Just syntax highlighting or something more advanced like an integrated REPL?

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by noir_lord »

akio wrote: post #114
thewhitetulip wrote: post #24

VSCode has done the thing that nobody expected MS to do, change the way code was written on Unix/Linux. I love linux/unix, but the problem always was with the lack of an awesome text editor cum IDE, yep there is eclipse but it is too clunky, I do not like sublime as it isn't FOSS (call me crazy), gedit took way too much memory, geany is fast and mean but the UI sucks plus functionality isn't that great. Enter VSCode,…

Noticeably missing from your list: IntelliJ and JetBrains's family of IDEs. I understand that VSCode has changed coding for you. But how has it changed anything for the 92.8%[0] of developers that don't use VSCode? [0] http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016#tech...

Intellij is an absolute beast of an IDE (in both senses, it's amazing and huge).

I haven't loved working with a tool so much since Delphi 6, it has plugins for everything I want to do, they work really well, I can have a project open and use multiple languages seamlessly, it's extremely customisable.

It's right up there with Linux in my "tools I wouldn't want to live without" category.

That said as a lightweight alternative when I don't need an IDE I'm very much liking vscode, it's a strange world when my favourite linux editor is made by microsoft.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by thedz »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #166
eropple wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What, exactly and without sweeping generalities, does it do that is a transformative step over Sublime Text or Atom? Or, hell, even Kate?

1. atom is slow and clunky it hangs when I paste a 10000 line sql insert statements 2. sublime text: sorry didn't try vscode's benifits: blazingly fast modern design works on linux/mac too little features like ctrl+P which lets you to jump to functions rather than play with files, I didn't know any other editor which allowed this feature to be there. It is a great way to code if you don't want or can't use vi/emacs,…

> blazingly fast modern design works on linux/mac too little features like ctrl+P which lets you to jump to functions rather than play with files, I didn't know any other editor which allowed this feature to be there.

Literally every other popular code editor supports some form of "go to symbol".

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by efdee »

flohofwoe wrote: post #84
thewhitetulip wrote: post #24

VSCode has done the thing that nobody expected MS to do, change the way code was written on Unix/Linux. I love linux/unix, but the problem always was with the lack of an awesome text editor cum IDE, yep there is eclipse but it is too clunky, I do not like sublime as it isn't FOSS (call me crazy), gedit took way too much memory, geany is fast and mean but the UI sucks plus functionality isn't that great. Enter VSCode,…

So, can VSCode run in a terminal window, without graphical user interface, while ssh'ed into another machine somewhere around the globe over a shitty internet connection, editing a file that's a few hundred megabytes big? As long as that's not possible it's not even a contest ;) I like VSCode because of it's debugger plugin infrastructure, but let's not get silly (MS changing the way code is written on Linux).

If your development work mainly consists of ssh'ing into remote machines over a shitty internet connection and then editing files that are megabytes big, I think you should reconsider your development workflow.

I realize that's a pretty harsh statement but that really sounds like the worst possible way to go around writing code.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by kreek »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #166
eropple wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What, exactly and without sweeping generalities, does it do that is a transformative step over Sublime Text or Atom? Or, hell, even Kate?

1. atom is slow and clunky it hangs when I paste a 10000 line sql insert statements 2. sublime text: sorry didn't try vscode's benifits: blazingly fast modern design works on linux/mac too little features like ctrl+P which lets you to jump to functions rather than play with files, I didn't know any other editor which allowed this feature to be there. It is a great way to code if you don't want or can't use vi/emacs,…

> features like ctrl+P which lets you to jump to functions rather than play with files, I didn't know any other editor which allowed this feature to be there

IntelliJ

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by messel »

First impressions: felt great, supported a ton of languages, has some very powerful looking debug tools (for nodejs)

Anyone have any luck creating an extension with mac classic? Tried manually adding the theme (following their doc) and no luck. Then created a msft account to try and create a package to install it as an extension and couldn't get past 401 on create-publisher.

Back to sublime for now, but I'll keep an eye on this one.

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