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Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Of the 30,699 shots, he missed 16,966 and made 13,731. At the smallest level of performance it is nice to see that you can fail more often than you succeed and still be very successful over all.

Reminds me of the Jordan commercial [1] where he mentions he lost more than 9000 shots in his career, lost almost 300 games and missed 26 game winning shots. Amazing commercial (like most Nike commercials). [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mMioJ5szc

Unrelated, but we have really hit a new low as a society if we are discussing the aesthetic qualities of shoe commercials.

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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A random thought, but you could use this data to play an extremely long game of HORSE with Kobe Bryant. I'm sure someone is already setting up a Tumblr blog to document their attempt :)

I would hope Kobe himself would easily beat it with no players opposing him on the court.

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Reminds me of the Jordan commercial [1] where he mentions he lost more than 9000 shots in his career, lost almost 300 games and missed 26 game winning shots. Amazing commercial (like most Nike commercials). [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mMioJ5szc

Unrelated, but we have really hit a new low as a society if we are discussing the aesthetic qualities of shoe commercials.

If something as banal as a shoe commercial has a legitimately inspirational message about failure and success, you could argue society has reached a new high.

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Here is an image of every pass Kobe made in his career: https://ezekiel.encs.vancouver.wsu.edu/~wayne/kobe-pass.png

That was funny but it's time to dispel the Kobe "ballhog" myth. Consider that Kobe logged a career average of 4.7 assists per game. Compared to other elite shooting guards/small forwards: * Michael Jordan - 5.3 * Lebron James - 6.9 * Kevin Durant - 3.7 * Carmelo Anthony - 3.2 * Dwayne Wade - 5.8

John Stockton averaged 10.5 assists per game. I wonder what Kobe's assists were after Shaq left?

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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A number of commenters have astutely identified the change in shot distribution over Kobe's career, which is due to a combination of age (older wing players tend to drive less and shoot more as they get older or experience injuries) and league trends towards more 3-point shooting. If you're interested in reading an excellent analysis of the 3-pointer in the modern NBA, I highly recommend Ben Morris's article on Steph…

The 2016 Warriors have Curry who broke his own record for 3-pointers in a season (and now holds the #1, #2, #4, and #7 slots for that record), but they also have Klay Thompson whose season was good enough for #3 all-time in the books. Thompson is shooting .420 to Curry's .444 so it's not like Curry's being underutilized in favor of a poor outside shooter.

Great stat I saw today: the 95-96 Bulls made 544 3-pointers that year. The 2015-2016 Warriors, if you took away every 3-pointer that Curry made, would still have 675. The game has changed indeed!

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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That was funny but it's time to dispel the Kobe "ballhog" myth. Consider that Kobe logged a career average of 4.7 assists per game. Compared to other elite shooting guards/small forwards: * Michael Jordan - 5.3 * Lebron James - 6.9 * Kevin Durant - 3.7 * Carmelo Anthony - 3.2 * Dwayne Wade - 5.8

I don't know basketball. Are those players known for assists?

It generally known that if you pass to Carmelo you'll never see the ball again.

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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post #141

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Unrelated, but we have really hit a new low as a society if we are discussing the aesthetic qualities of shoe commercials.

If something as banal as a shoe commercial has a legitimately inspirational message about failure and success, you could argue society has reached a new high.

Hah! Perhaps. I don't think you can call it banal considering the investment, however—it's straight-up propaganda. I highly doubt Kobe's three-point shot has anything to do with his using Nikes.

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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That was funny but it's time to dispel the Kobe "ballhog" myth. Consider that Kobe logged a career average of 4.7 assists per game. Compared to other elite shooting guards/small forwards: * Michael Jordan - 5.3 * Lebron James - 6.9 * Kevin Durant - 3.7 * Carmelo Anthony - 3.2 * Dwayne Wade - 5.8

John Stockton averaged 10.5 assists per game. I wonder what Kobe's assists were after Shaq left?

John Stockton was a point guard so that's not an apt comparison.

Kobe averaged 6.0 assists per game the year after Shaq left, the highest season average of his career.

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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There's a famous Kobe quote on his philosophy on failing. During a conversation at some game: "Deron Williams went like 0-9. I was like, 'Can you believe Deron Williams went 0-9?' Kobe was like, 'I would go 0-30 before I would go 0-9. 0-9 means you beat yourself, you psyched yourself out of the game, because Deron Williams can get more shots in the game. The only reason is because you've just now lost confidence in y…

A similar quote by Michael Jordan: “I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.”

> I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.

Which is also true for the worst players in NBA history, with the exception of the causality and the success.

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was funny but it's time to dispel the Kobe "ballhog" myth. Consider that Kobe logged a career average of 4.7 assists per game. Compared to other elite shooting guards/small forwards: * Michael Jordan - 5.3 * Lebron James - 6.9 * Kevin Durant - 3.7 * Carmelo Anthony - 3.2 * Dwayne Wade - 5.8

I don't know basketball. Are those players known for assists?

They're some of the best players in the league. 3 out of 5 are MVPs.

For context in terms of contemporary players known for assists:

Chris Paul: 9.95

John Wall: 8.95

Rajon Rondo: 8.70 (surprised that he's not higher!)

Steve Nash: 8.49

Russel Westbrook: 7.59

eta: Should note that these guys are point guards.

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