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Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by thewhitetulip »

dubdubbub wrote: post #174
thewhitetulip wrote: post #24

VSCode has done the thing that nobody expected MS to do, change the way code was written on Unix/Linux. I love linux/unix, but the problem always was with the lack of an awesome text editor cum IDE, yep there is eclipse but it is too clunky, I do not like sublime as it isn't FOSS (call me crazy), gedit took way too much memory, geany is fast and mean but the UI sucks plus functionality isn't that great. Enter VSCode,…

> SCode has done the thing that nobody expected MS to do, change the way code was written on Unix/Linux. ... > I love linux/unix, but the problem always was with the lack of an awesome text editor cum IDE I mean, its okay if you don't have experience with vim or emacs, but why spew uninformed bullshit when any semi-knowledgeable linux/unix dev knows that vim and emacs run laps around vscode, sublime, etc.

Try building a large webapp in vi and then comment. These days what you do is more important than what you use to do it, use vi or emacs or some shitty text editor, but eventually you need a real IDE with a GUI, vi is great, I love it, but it isn't the thing to be used for a large web app.

>ut why spew uninformed bullshit when any semi-knowledgeable linux/unix dev knows that vim and emacs run laps around vscode, sublime, etc Because the rest of the entire world doesn't share your opinion.

if you really use vi for a large scale project then salute to you! I am fine with vscode, I want to get things done rather than learn my editor (read spend valuable time learning nooks and corners and the million shorcuts which I'd have rather spent on building my application product or startup)

I even wrote a short tutorial about writing webapps in golang: http://github.com/thewhitetulip/web-dev-golang-anti-textbook...

all thanks to vscode + go plugin

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

#182

Post by ZoeZoeBee »

I've played around with VS before but, I'm thinking of switching over to this full time. I've gotten sick of the time wasted on TypeScript Errors in Webstorm, the code Completion and Typings info is ridiculously better than Intellijs offering, which has moved to SAAS :(

Getting used to things, takes a little bit.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by dubdubbub »

wmccullough wrote: post #180

Yet again, just like the other Microsoft announcements, this thread is filled with "greybeard" superstition and vitriol. It's to the point now where the conversations are becoming like this: "I really like this new tool from Microsoft" Samples Response: "But Linux is just as good if you install X, Y, Z and are willing to spend hours learning the intricacies of the kernel" "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" As developers,…

> As developers, can we all be happy that Windows users are finally getting a nice range of really wonderful tools to use?

Why? Windows is crap and needs to die.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by mercurial »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #157
Analemma_ wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand; I just think you're being a little harsh on the OP, even if their language was a bit exuberant. They said they tried Atom and found it too slow, so if VSC was the first "3rd gen editor" (a term I just made up) that was usable in their workflow, then for them, it is a revolution. Assume good faith when comments are ambiguous :)

Yep, that's what I meant, earlier I didn't have such an awesome text editor with git inbuilt, eclipse is clunky and stuff, vi and emacs are too hard to learn, didn't have that much time to learn every small stuff that vi can do, so vscode changed the way I write code, and for most of the "new" developers, it will change the way they write code, gone are the days when you are staring at the screen wondering what was t…

Eclipse is not a code editor. It's an IDE. It offers a bazillion things out of the box (a lot of it that VS doesn't do without Resharper), but you're going to pay the price in terms of performance and RAM, sure.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by wlesieutre »

dubdubbub wrote: post #172
neves wrote: post #130

VSCode knockouts Atom in a dispute for becoming a developer editor in a corporate computer. Sure, you all have root password in your computer. Unfortunately, I belong to a lower race: the corporate developer. I work in a Windows 7 machine, don't have root password and there's a big wall called proxy around me. I didn't know about VSCode before this HN post, but I was trying to use a new editor instead of Notepad++. I…

> Atom was knocked out in the first minute. 'knocked out'? > must install a column mode extension, need to install a ntlm proxy authentication downloaded from (argh!) Sourceforge Why not just set up atom to use your existing corporate proxy? > failed to install the extension because it needs a compiler Sounds like bullshit, what extension? > You've got a new fan VSCode! So all of your complaints about atom are actual…

Googled part of this for you:

>Why not just set up atom to use your existing corporate proxy?

"Many of these text editors support proxy servers, but none of them that I have tried support NTLM for authentication and if your corporate proxy is using NTLM they simply cannot connect to it. Or lets say not directly! Actually the only solution I have found is to use a software called CNTLM that can act as a proxy server itself and behind the scene it can connect to another proxy server that is using NTLM." [1]

As to what needed a compiler, that part I'm not sure about. Aren't Atom extensions generally in javascript? Could it have been the CNTLM installer that wanted a compiler?

[1] https://devinthefastlane.wordpress.com/2015/12/24/how-to-ins...

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by mjt0229 »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #157
Analemma_ wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand; I just think you're being a little harsh on the OP, even if their language was a bit exuberant. They said they tried Atom and found it too slow, so if VSC was the first "3rd gen editor" (a term I just made up) that was usable in their workflow, then for them, it is a revolution. Assume good faith when comments are ambiguous :)

Yep, that's what I meant, earlier I didn't have such an awesome text editor with git inbuilt, eclipse is clunky and stuff, vi and emacs are too hard to learn, didn't have that much time to learn every small stuff that vi can do, so vscode changed the way I write code, and for most of the "new" developers, it will change the way they write code, gone are the days when you are staring at the screen wondering what was t…

I would strongly suggest that at some point in your career, you take the time to learn either vi or Emacs, even if you still use VS Code everything.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

#189

Post by mercurial »

unoti wrote: post #127
flohofwoe wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, can VSCode run in a terminal window, without graphical user interface, while ssh'ed into another machine somewhere around the globe over a shitty internet connection, editing a file that's a few hundred megabytes big? As long as that's not possible it's not even a contest ;) I like VSCode because of it's debugger plugin infrastructure, but let's not get silly (MS changing the way code is written on Linux).

> editing a file that's a few hundred megabytes big? As long as that's not possible it's not even a contest ;) I usually try to keep my source files and config files smaller than a few hundred megabytes. Sounds like you might need more specialized tools for your unusual approach to editing source code.

A good code editor should let you inspect that 800MB XML file your customer sent you.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Post by dubdubbub »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #181
dubdubbub wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> SCode has done the thing that nobody expected MS to do, change the way code was written on Unix/Linux. ... > I love linux/unix, but the problem always was with the lack of an awesome text editor cum IDE I mean, its okay if you don't have experience with vim or emacs, but why spew uninformed bullshit when any semi-knowledgeable linux/unix dev knows that vim and emacs run laps around vscode, sublime, etc.

Try building a large webapp in vi and then comment. These days what you do is more important than what you use to do it, use vi or emacs or some shitty text editor, but eventually you need a real IDE with a GUI, vi is great, I love it, but it isn't the thing to be used for a large web app. >ut why spew uninformed bullshit when any semi-knowledgeable linux/unix dev knows that vim and emacs run laps around vscode, subl…

> Try building a large webapp in vi and then comment.

I've built several using mostly vim as the editor.

> These days what you do is more important than what you use to do it, use vi or emacs or some shitty text editor

I mean that's a cute opinion, but both vim and emacs are much more powerful and flexible than eclipse, intellij, visual studio or other similar crap.

> but it isn't the thing to be used for a large web app.

Why not?

> I am fine with vscode, I want to get things done rather than learn my editor (read spend valuable time learning nooks and corners and the million shorcuts which I'd have rather spent on building my application product or startup)

You probably spend 100x more time making shitposts on HN and other forums than it would take to learn vim and emacs.

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