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Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Post by burkaman » Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 2:55 PM UTC

josephscott wrote: post #63

Of the 30,699 shots, he missed 16,966 and made 13,731. At the smallest level of performance it is nice to see that you can fail more often than you succeed and still be very successful over all.

There's a famous Kobe quote on his philosophy on failing. During a conversation at some game:

"Deron Williams went like 0-9. I was like, 'Can you believe Deron Williams went 0-9?' Kobe was like, 'I would go 0-30 before I would go 0-9. 0-9 means you beat yourself, you psyched yourself out of the game, because Deron Williams can get more shots in the game. The only reason is because you've just now lost confidence in yourself.'"

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Post by samfisher83 » Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 3:05 PM UTC

dsfuoi wrote: post #5

How is this recorded; and so accurately?

Now they have something called SportVU. It is a set of cameras that track the players around. It really cool tech.

http://www.stats.com/sportvu/sportvu-basketball-media/

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Post by avn2109 » Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 3:13 PM UTC

matwood wrote: post #46

exDM69 wrote: post #2

How curious that there's a band of no shots that's right on the three point line. But then there are plenty of shots a foot closer to the hoop. The explanation is probably psychological, you don't want to take shots that are as about as difficult as 3 point shots, but worth only two. But the situation isn't really any better if you take a single step forwards. Of course, the positioning of the defensive players matte…

It's called practice. That area for a shooter is no-mans land. They either will setup outside the 3pt line or significantly inside the 3pt line. It is simply a spot no shooter, and particularly one like Kobe, would ever setup and wait for a pass or call for the ball from.

Not only practice, but also training. Every shooting coach in the league will tell you that the deep two is the worst shot in basketball. Kobe had it drilled into his head since he was seven years old that you never shoot a deep two.

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Post by bzbarsky » Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 3:16 PM UTC

yitchelle wrote: post #13

olliedev wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, in the tour the first point is: "More than one-third of Kobe's career points came from free throws (not shown).

Thanks, that bit of text is not showing up in my browser.

I found that I had to make my browser window pretty wide to get the tour texts showing up...

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Post by bshimmin » Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 3:19 PM UTC

Godel_unicode wrote: post #64

distances wrote: post #40

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For the downvoters: submission title didn't specify so I genuinely expected photography. Seems like valid clarification to me!

Serious culture-calibration question(assuming you're not trolling): where are you from? At least in America, "Kobe Bryant is a famous basketball player" is one of those facts that everyone (for relatively large values of everyone) knows.

Well, I know who he is, but from a sample of not-very-many in the UK, my wife had no idea and my colleague sat next to me (male, early 30s, loves cricket) also had no idea.

I'd say he's semi-famous in the UK.

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Post by emptyfile » Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 3:33 PM UTC

Godel_unicode wrote: post #64

distances wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the downvoters: submission title didn't specify so I genuinely expected photography. Seems like valid clarification to me!

Serious culture-calibration question(assuming you're not trolling): where are you from? At least in America, "Kobe Bryant is a famous basketball player" is one of those facts that everyone (for relatively large values of everyone) knows.

I don't think most people in Europe would know who he is.

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Post by xeromal » Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 3:34 PM UTC

speg wrote: post #66

jonas21 wrote: post #53

Looks like they used Leaflet, a Javascript mapping library, for the visualization, so you end up with funny stuff like this in the source: var courtBounds = [[33.1593, -118.0198], [34.2353, -118.5198]];

> countQuery.execute("SELECT COUNT(cartodb_id) AS feature_count FROM kobe_all_shots_geocoded_final_merge"... I sure hope they have permissions set up on that database..

I'd never think to view source on random pages I visit, but this has me curious who else does things like this. Why is JS executing SQL?

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Post by Guillaume86 » Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 3:34 PM UTC

distances wrote: post #68

Godel_unicode wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious culture-calibration question(assuming you're not trolling): where are you from? At least in America, "Kobe Bryant is a famous basketball player" is one of those facts that everyone (for relatively large values of everyone) knows.

Europe -- mostly Germany and Finland. The only basketball players I know are Magic Johnson and Larry Bird.

Maybe also Michael Jordan?

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Post by ssharp » Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 3:40 PM UTC

matwood wrote: post #48

ssharp wrote: post #25

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The differences in their gifts also account for a lot. If Curry continues through his prime like he's played the past two seasons, he'll be the greatest shooter of all time. Kobe was never a great jump shooter but was remarkable at finding ways to get shots, as well as getting fouled. Typically, in the NBA, the best scorers fit closer to the Kobe mold than Curry mold, Jordan and Lebron, for example. It will be intere…

Curry is a great shooter that also benefits from the rule changes to give shooters more space outside the paint. I never liked the constant hand checking allowed, and am glad they stopped it. I wonder how Curry would fare in the 90s NBA given his smaller frame. I think he would still be a great shooter, but could he get his shot as easily? Debates like this are what makes sports fun.

It seems like a fairly common sentiment when comparing the '96 Bulls to '16 Warriors is that the Bulls would win under '96 rules and the Warriors would win under '16 rules.

There were also players who shot the ball extremely well before the three-point line took effect. Steph is averaging around 30 points per game with 5 three's a game. Without the additional point, it drops him to 25 points per game. Still good but probably not an MVP shoe-in anymore.

Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took

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Post by AlwaysRock » Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 3:45 PM UTC

SoapSeller wrote: post #57

ruffrey wrote: post #49

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In the US? That seems really tedious.

Yes, they have those people in their Chicago office. (I believe they also have people in India doing this nowdays)

I know a lot of guys that work at stats. Some of it is manual but over the last couple years they have actually build some pretty cool stuff to track all this. The company has done three rounds of massive layoffs over the last year though so who knows if advancements will continue.