How is this recorded; and so accurately?
Manually. Companies like Stats(that also now running the optical tracking in the nba) has rooms full of people watching videos of games and tagging events.
Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took
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#42How curious that there's a band of no shots that's right on the three point line. But then there are plenty of shots a foot closer to the hoop. The explanation is probably psychological, you don't want to take shots that are as about as difficult as 3 point shots, but worth only two. But the situation isn't really any better if you take a single step forwards. Of course, the positioning of the defensive players matte…
Isn't it just that if you're half a step away from 3 points, you might as well take the half a step back and try for 3 instead of 2 with a shot that's pretty much the same in difficulty?
I think it's more like they are going for a three point shot, and want to make sure it's actually in the three point area. Pretty wasteful being just over the line, and only getting two for the effort.
Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took
#43How curious that there's a band of no shots that's right on the three point line. But then there are plenty of shots a foot closer to the hoop. The explanation is probably psychological, you don't want to take shots that are as about as difficult as 3 point shots, but worth only two. But the situation isn't really any better if you take a single step forwards. Of course, the positioning of the defensive players matte…
I thought that was really interesting as well and would love to see if it hold true for other players.
It would, yes. Players are taught young a foot on the line is the "worst shot in basketball".
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone know how the data is collected? Is it computer generated by some software watching the game or is there someone faithfully capturing this into some database? Does the data exist for other players. I'm a bit amazed that this kind of data is captured and wonder how accurate it is.
ha! I guess I asked too soon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_tracking_(National_Bask... I wonder what the proprietary software is. Anyone know? Based on opencv perhaps? Amazing!
You could probably get better AI listening to the sounds of the ball hitting the ring/back board/etc rather than studying images with different angles and players an shooting styles.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their height and weight differences justify the different style, though. Curry is 1.91 / 86kg, hard to penetrate inside with force since he lacks the mass. Jordan and Kobe are both 1.98, you can compare them better.
The differences in their gifts also account for a lot. If Curry continues through his prime like he's played the past two seasons, he'll be the greatest shooter of all time. Kobe was never a great jump shooter but was remarkable at finding ways to get shots, as well as getting fouled. Typically, in the NBA, the best scorers fit closer to the Kobe mold than Curry mold, Jordan and Lebron, for example. It will be intere…
I've noticed this trend as well. I play pickup games with college students and noticed a major increase in the volume of three pointers. The game is definitely changing.
Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took
#46How curious that there's a band of no shots that's right on the three point line. But then there are plenty of shots a foot closer to the hoop. The explanation is probably psychological, you don't want to take shots that are as about as difficult as 3 point shots, but worth only two. But the situation isn't really any better if you take a single step forwards. Of course, the positioning of the defensive players matte…
It's called practice. That area for a shooter is no-mans land. They either will setup outside the 3pt line or significantly inside the 3pt line. It is simply a spot no shooter, and particularly one like Kobe, would ever setup and wait for a pass or call for the ball from.
Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took
#47How curious that there's a band of no shots that's right on the three point line. But then there are plenty of shots a foot closer to the hoop. The explanation is probably psychological, you don't want to take shots that are as about as difficult as 3 point shots, but worth only two. But the situation isn't really any better if you take a single step forwards. Of course, the positioning of the defensive players matte…
I read this as: if he's outside of the 3-point line and open, it's in his best interest to get as close to the line as possible and take the shot. He'll never intentionally step just over that line and degrade down to a two pointer. This fact should really reduce the number of shots in the "just over the line" zone.
As you go in a bit, I suspect it's much less likely that he would have started open outside the arc. If a three isn't an option he would take the easiest shot available wherever it was, and "easiest" usually means "closer (if open)".
And finally, if he's just inside the arc and wide open, he's going to have time to move a step back to try the three.
So I think there are few situations where it would make sense to take the shot just inside the arc.
Re: Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their height and weight differences justify the different style, though. Curry is 1.91 / 86kg, hard to penetrate inside with force since he lacks the mass. Jordan and Kobe are both 1.98, you can compare them better.
The differences in their gifts also account for a lot. If Curry continues through his prime like he's played the past two seasons, he'll be the greatest shooter of all time. Kobe was never a great jump shooter but was remarkable at finding ways to get shots, as well as getting fouled. Typically, in the NBA, the best scorers fit closer to the Kobe mold than Curry mold, Jordan and Lebron, for example. It will be intere…
Curry is a great shooter that also benefits from the rule changes to give shooters more space outside the paint. I never liked the constant hand checking allowed, and am glad they stopped it. I wonder how Curry would fare in the 90s NBA given his smaller frame. I think he would still be a great shooter, but could he get his shot as easily? Debates like this are what makes sports fun.
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#50How curious that there's a band of no shots that's right on the three point line. But then there are plenty of shots a foot closer to the hoop. The explanation is probably psychological, you don't want to take shots that are as about as difficult as 3 point shots, but worth only two. But the situation isn't really any better if you take a single step forwards. Of course, the positioning of the defensive players matte…
Guards are more likely to let down their defense if you step inside the 2-pointer zone, but are not close to the hoop.