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Are Geeks The New Alpha Male?

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Re: Are Geeks The New Alpha Male?

#11
In my short life (in miami), I've experienced the following:

Young women (18-24) seem to be trending towards males with influence of some sort & a sense of humor - so if you're "well connected" but not well off, "chicks can dig that" or if you're "well known" (where people stop you on the street) & of course, if you're rich or appear to be rich.

I suppose all of them could require brains, but not all of them do.

Re: Are Geeks The New Alpha Male?

#12

No, our genes aren't that smart. For the same reason that sex doesn't stop being enjoyable when using birth control, women won't stop being attracted to socially dominant men because the shy geeks have better earning potential.

I agree that social confidence (some might say dominance) remains attractive to women, but I'd also argue that geeks are becoming a little less shy as intelligence and technology is considered cool or sexy.

Re: Are Geeks The New Alpha Male?

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ESR writes in his 'How to be sexy' essay: "Being an alpha male in some status hierarchy changes your body language, your sex-hormone levels, and the smell of your sweat. Women home in on men with these traits [...]".

The idea is that if you're a core developer on a project, you will gain alpha-male status from it. It doesn't really matter what kind of project it is. So this is a way in which hackers can become irrestibly attractive to the other sex.

The essay is at http://catb.org/~esr/writings/sextips/sexy.html

Re: Are Geeks The New Alpha Male?

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No, our genes aren't that smart. For the same reason that sex doesn't stop being enjoyable when using birth control, women won't stop being attracted to socially dominant men because the shy geeks have better earning potential.

Well, given enough time, women will prefer men who provide more advantages to her children.

Of course, "earning potential" actually doesn't matter much either, in a wealthy society where death from poverty is rare. Instead, look at the people who are having lots of kids vs. few or none. Don't underestimate the power of vertical memetic transmission, either--breeding rapidly is more viable today than ever before as a means of promoting ideas.

Genetic engineering will probably throw everything out the window long before selection pressures could do much anyhow.

Re: Are Geeks The New Alpha Male?

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The alpha male has long been achieved by means of physical prowess (meow).

First, not after high school, no. Second, being the alpha male has more to do with how other men think of you than about how women seek mates. Third, women have always found intelligence inherently attractive, and smart people who have a hard time with the ladies have always avoided acknowledging that because it would mean acknowledging they have other defects that hold them back.

Re: Are Geeks The New Alpha Male?

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post #11

In my short life (in miami), I've experienced the following: Young women (18-24) seem to be trending towards males with influence of some sort & a sense of humor - so if you're "well connected" but not well off, "chicks can dig that" or if you're "well known" (where people stop you on the street) & of course, if you're rich or appear to be rich. I suppose all of them could require brains, but not all of them do.

Humor and social skills absolutely require brains, though. Social status games are what our brains are built for; abstract and analytic thinking may be the intellectual power behind the march of technology, but in all likelihood that's probably just an accident, in evolutionary terms.

Re: Are Geeks The New Alpha Male?

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post #14

ESR writes in his 'How to be sexy' essay: "Being an alpha male in some status hierarchy changes your body language, your sex-hormone levels, and the smell of your sweat. Women home in on men with these traits [...]". The idea is that if you're a core developer on a project, you will gain alpha-male status from it. It doesn't really matter what kind of project it is. So this is a way in which hackers can become irrest…

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