Paper-Pushing Flight Controllers See Future in Canada's System
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#2> U.S. debate to privitize air-traffic control spotlights Canada
Heaven forbid, we would pay the Canadians for what they have that is already proven to work well and efficiently...
Re: Paper-Pushing Flight Controllers See Future in Canada's System
#3> U.S. debate to privitize air-traffic control spotlights Canada Heaven forbid, we would pay the Canadians for what they have that is already proven to work well and efficiently...
It works well for them. Keep in mind the US has thousands of more airports and significantly more air traffic. Just like in the tech world something might work for 100 users of an app but may not work at scale. I am not bashing the NAV Canada system just saying the comparisons to the US ATC aren't apples to apples for numerous reasons.
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#4> U.S. debate to privitize air-traffic control spotlights Canada Heaven forbid, we would pay the Canadians for what they have that is already proven to work well and efficiently...
It works well for them. Keep in mind the US has thousands of more airports and significantly more air traffic. Just like in the tech world something might work for 100 users of an app but may not work at scale. I am not bashing the NAV Canada system just saying the comparisons to the US ATC aren't apples to apples for numerous reasons.
I think, the guys who built the system for a 100 airports probably know best how to change the system for a 1000 airports while preserving all its advantages.
Maybe NavCanada can slowly scale up by exporting it to bigger and bigger countries until its big enough for American airports.
Re: Paper-Pushing Flight Controllers See Future in Canada's System
#5Woah. A great system for drones to start self-reporting flight plans into .
Re: Paper-Pushing Flight Controllers See Future in Canada's System
#6> U.S. debate to privitize air-traffic control spotlights Canada Heaven forbid, we would pay the Canadians for what they have that is already proven to work well and efficiently...
It works well for them. Keep in mind the US has thousands of more airports and significantly more air traffic. Just like in the tech world something might work for 100 users of an app but may not work at scale. I am not bashing the NAV Canada system just saying the comparisons to the US ATC aren't apples to apples for numerous reasons.
from wiki, canada:
> Nav Canada manages 12 million aircraft movements a year for 40,000 customers in over 18 million square kilometres, making it the world’s second-largest air navigation service provider (ANSP) by traffic volume
usa:
> In 2006 En Route and Oceanic Services supported 47 million operations in the national airspace system. We are responsible for controlling more than 5,600,000 square miles (15,000,000 km2) of airspace in the U.S. and more than 24,600,000 square miles (64,000,000 km2) of airspace over the oceans.
roughly 1/4 the volume, I'm willing hazard a guess it would scale.
Re: Paper-Pushing Flight Controllers See Future in Canada's System
#7> U.S. debate to privitize air-traffic control spotlights Canada Heaven forbid, we would pay the Canadians for what they have that is already proven to work well and efficiently...
It works well for them. Keep in mind the US has thousands of more airports and significantly more air traffic. Just like in the tech world something might work for 100 users of an app but may not work at scale. I am not bashing the NAV Canada system just saying the comparisons to the US ATC aren't apples to apples for numerous reasons.
It seems the US can't learn anything from anywhere in the world because it's too big, too many states, too small (in comparison to China) or for some other reason.
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#8Does anyone have first hand information about this system? It looks too good to be true. Not even a problem with it.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
It works well for them. Keep in mind the US has thousands of more airports and significantly more air traffic. Just like in the tech world something might work for 100 users of an app but may not work at scale. I am not bashing the NAV Canada system just saying the comparisons to the US ATC aren't apples to apples for numerous reasons.
It seems the US can't learn anything from anywhere in the world because it's too big, too many states, too small (in comparison to China) or for some other reason.
Your words not mine. I said nothing about learning and only about making comparisons.
Re: Paper-Pushing Flight Controllers See Future in Canada's System
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems the US can't learn anything from anywhere in the world because it's too big, too many states, too small (in comparison to China) or for some other reason.
Your words not mine. I said nothing about learning and only about making comparisons.
Sorry, I didn't want to attack you. I just notice that whenever something works in another country (see healthcare or public infrastructure) a lot of people in the US will say it can't work in the US: Either the US is too big or it's a "socialist" thing and therefore needs to be avoided.
I think this attitude is a big danger for the US. There was a time when the US could teach the world but that time is coming to an end. Other countries have learned whatever advantages the US system has and now they are building on that knowledge and they are sometimes coming up with better solutions. If the US keeps ignoring these developments it will slowly fall behind until it's too late.