I guess Boston has startups but I didn't think Indiana had a lot. This is going to help Silicon Valley more than Boston or Indy--where are Feinstein and Boxer?
Senators Kerry & Lugar Introduce the Startup Visa Act
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So, in your estimation, would that be "better" or "worse" than "you cannot get a visa to come to the US and start a company at all, ever" (the status quo)
Worse. I think it will be somewhat unfair to visa aspirants and that it will distort the market.
Do you think it will be less fair than "You can't even have an application form"?
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This new visa sounds good in theory, but the requirement is too steep... 1 million in either VC or revenue? I'm looking into emigrating, but I guess the US still has too-steep requirements for it to be a country to immigrate to.
Sorry -- in between the "dey took our jawbs" crowd and the blatant nativist crowd, any common sense approach to visas in the US is fighting an uphill battle. But we're trying.
I'm no better than this in most HN arguments but will hypocritically observe that you opt out of reasonable debate about immigration policy when you imply that your opponents are South Park caricatures.
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Sorry -- in between the "dey took our jawbs" crowd and the blatant nativist crowd, any common sense approach to visas in the US is fighting an uphill battle. But we're trying.
I'm no better than this in most HN arguments but will hypocritically observe that you opt out of reasonable debate about immigration policy when you imply that your opponents are South Park caricatures.
It's an abbreviation. I'm not writing a sociological treatise here.
How's this:
Group 1) We feel immigration hurts us economically and are generally opposed regardless of specifics (50% liberal, 50% conservative)
Group 2) We feel immigration hurts us culturally and are generally opposed regardless of specifics (95% conservative)
Re: Senators Kerry & Lugar Introduce the Startup Visa Act
#15I don't think this is about startups...I think this is about bringing already semi-successful companies into US.
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Worse. I think it will be somewhat unfair to visa aspirants and that it will distort the market.
Do you think it will be less fair than "You can't even have an application form"?
Yes, though not by much. There are two issues at play here: whether you can move to the US to start a business, and, regardless of where you run your business, how your business will operate. I think that the first issue is slightly less fair (it's more arbitrary and more ambiguous, but it's also more flexible). I think the second issue is much less fair.
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I'm no better than this in most HN arguments but will hypocritically observe that you opt out of reasonable debate about immigration policy when you imply that your opponents are South Park caricatures.
It's an abbreviation. I'm not writing a sociological treatise here. How's this: Group 1) We feel immigration hurts us economically and are generally opposed regardless of specifics (50% liberal, 50% conservative) Group 2) We feel immigration hurts us culturally and are generally opposed regardless of specifics (95% conservative)
I'm in favor of drastically relaxed immigration policies for professionals. I object to this bill. I fit neither of your groups.
Re: Senators Kerry & Lugar Introduce the Startup Visa Act
#18I guess Boston has startups but I didn't think Indiana had a lot. This is going to help Silicon Valley more than Boston or Indy--where are Feinstein and Boxer?
It's not about how many startups Indiana has. It's about Lugar.
Re: Senators Kerry & Lugar Introduce the Startup Visa Act
#19If anyone wants to buy a ticket to the U.S., I have lots of startups you can invest in! Just send me the money and we'll start the paperwork.
Re: Senators Kerry & Lugar Introduce the Startup Visa Act
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's an abbreviation. I'm not writing a sociological treatise here. How's this: Group 1) We feel immigration hurts us economically and are generally opposed regardless of specifics (50% liberal, 50% conservative) Group 2) We feel immigration hurts us culturally and are generally opposed regardless of specifics (95% conservative)
I'm in favor of drastically relaxed immigration policies for professionals. I object to this bill. I fit neither of your groups.
Yeah, but your objection makes no sense and is probably rooted (apologies, and read this in a courteous tone) in the fact that you saw Kerry's name and had a gut reaction + ipso facto (FYI, Lugar's a republican).
The legislation proposed moves us from "no way, no how" to "imperfect system" -- if you're primarily for relaxing immigration policies for professionals, you should support the bill in principle, favor it over nothing, and probably have quibbles. This bill would mean more professional immigration for the purpose of starting companies -- along with the requisite amount of BS, hassle, unfair playing field etc that apply to all visa situations as things stand now.