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Re: Velocipedia

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Post by Piskvorrr »

ccozan wrote: post #54
ranko wrote: post #33

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It's the usual way to turn when using your hands too - in fact, you (subconsciously) turn your handlebars the "wrong" way when cornering on a bike ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering ). This is very counterintuitive and discussing it is a good way to start arguments...

I thought that countersteering is only for motorcycles? But then , cite "The entire sequence goes largely unnoticed by most riders, which is why some assert that they do not do it", end cite, is most probably true.

No. The effect is, of course, much more pronounced with motorbikes, given the greater mass and velocity - but anything resembling a bike can be countersteered.

Re: Velocipedia

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Post by Piskvorrr »

Zarel wrote: post #28
Piskvorrr wrote: post #10

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I would like to see you turn a bike with front-wheel chainstays. Straight-only driving, turns are obsolete! :D Also, the front wheel is connected to the frame in a very different way than the back wheel: single strong tube, only diverging further on; and there is no requirement for the front wheel to be powered - therefore the front wheel can (and does) move WRT the frame, something the back wheel must not do. Yes, t…

You can actually turn by leaning in the correct direction. This is actually the usual way to turn if you're no-hand biking. http://www.wikihow.com/Ride-No-Handed-on-a-Bike

Of course - note that this, too, requires a front wheel with two degrees of freedom (although it's possible to turn a no-steering two-wheel vehicle by leaning, the effect is minimal compared to one steerable wheel); front chainstays would prevent this.

Re: Velocipedia

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Post by Piskvorrr »

Moru wrote: post #36
mapleoin wrote: post #24

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I would draw it facing left and I think that's because of the way I learned to mount a bike: the bike-stand is on the left side so you need to have your last foot on the ground on the left side in order to pull it up.

Yes, this is my guess too. Are all bikes mounted from the left even in areas with left traffic? Haven't thought about that before.

I believe this goes all the way back to horse-mounting - mounting from the left is easier, as your primary hand weapon (sword, mace, club, whatever) is likely to hang at your left side, where you can easily reach it with your right hand; this makes mounting from the right considerably harder, as the weapon gets betwween . (It would probably reverse for left-handed fighters; this had very little impact on today's bike mounting and kickstands, however)

Re: Velocipedia

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Post by coldtea »

userbinator wrote: post #20

bicycles facing left: 75 % bicycles facing right: 25 % That's unexpected. For some reason I'd think more would be facing right than left, and if I were to draw one it would probably be facing right too. I don't know why but it seems to feel more "natural". I just Googled images for "bicycle" and 32 out of the first 40 were facing right. I noticed all the renders were facing right as well, even if the original drawing…

Hmm, facing left would look more natural to me, but indeed, Google images shows most bicycles facing right.

OTOH, most cars seem to face left.

Re: Velocipedia

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Post by JackOverflow »

userbinator wrote: post #20

bicycles facing left: 75 % bicycles facing right: 25 % That's unexpected. For some reason I'd think more would be facing right than left, and if I were to draw one it would probably be facing right too. I don't know why but it seems to feel more "natural". I just Googled images for "bicycle" and 32 out of the first 40 were facing right. I noticed all the renders were facing right as well, even if the original drawing…

My guess would be that people draw left to right, and also start drawing the part that is simplest. If you look at some of the drawings it seems that people get confused about how the gears and the rear wheel connect to the rest of the bike, while the front wheel and handlebars are more often correct.

Re: Velocipedia

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Post by coldtea »

mapleoin wrote: post #24
userbinator wrote: post #20

bicycles facing left: 75 % bicycles facing right: 25 % That's unexpected. For some reason I'd think more would be facing right than left, and if I were to draw one it would probably be facing right too. I don't know why but it seems to feel more "natural". I just Googled images for "bicycle" and 32 out of the first 40 were facing right. I noticed all the renders were facing right as well, even if the original drawing…

I would draw it facing left and I think that's because of the way I learned to mount a bike: the bike-stand is on the left side so you need to have your last foot on the ground on the left side in order to pull it up.

>the bike-stand is on the left side

Obviously that's just if the bike is positioned facing left.

Nothing inherent about it, you could just as well mount a bike facing right, and it would be on the other side.

Re: Velocipedia

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Post by coldtea »

snori74 wrote: post #42
alkonaut wrote: post #34

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This. It's the way you approach a bike to mount so that's the way it looks inviting in advertisements too. I'm not sure if "stand fixed to left side" is a rhs traffic thing or something global?

Same with horses, boats and airplanes... and yes, I think in all these cases it's the global convention.

Including England, Australia, Thailand, Indonesia, Japan, etc?

Re: Velocipedia

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Post by coldtea »

rawTruthHurts wrote: post #41
logicrook wrote: post #32

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Renders also mean drawings. Scott Robertson's book "How to render" does not explain how to press the render button in Blender, it explains how to actually draw (render) a concept art.

We already had grammar nazis. I guess it's time for the semantics nazis!

"Semantics nazis"?

Quite a roundabout way for describing people that care for the accurate use of terms...

Is assigning random personal meanings to words a thing now? I mean, talk about putting the p...y on the chainwax!

Re: Velocipedia

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Post by slight »

andreamez wrote: post #63
deprave wrote: post #46

I'm curious, why does he call them "men's bicycle"?

I think because in Italy the different models are called "man bicycle" and "woman bycicle" ("bici da uomo" and "bici da donna", respectively). How are they called in English?

Men's bicycle and women's bicycle in the UK.
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