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Re: Vim 8.0 is coming

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Post by sillysaurus3 »

aidos wrote: post #25
arnsholt wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since I happen to have the answer to both of those: `daw` and `diw` deletes a whole word (unlike `dw` which only deletes forward). They differ in what they do with whitespace; `aw` also trims trailing whitespace (or leading whitespace if there's no trailing) while `iw` leaves the whitespace alone. These two are text objects that can be combined with other commands and quantifiers, so that `yaw` copies a word without…

If I want to put parens around a word I do, ciw() P (change word pulls it into the default register, insert the parens and then paste from the register back between the parens). You can use the same pattern for any selection you have visually highlighted, such is the wonderful power of vim.

Handy trick. Thanks!

Re: Vim 8.0 is coming

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Post by plafl »

pvinis wrote: post #4

I have vim, neovim and emacs (and spacemacs) installed. Right now I'm trying to get into emacs a bit more. What's interesting to me, and the reason I try to keep up to date with the latest changes for all four editors, is that it's been now, what, 25 years (?) since emacs and vim started "competing" and they still are. I guess we could be saying the same in 10 years about firefox and chrome, but it still is amazing i…

That's actually the main reason I try to move all my workflow to emacs. Most probably it will be maintained 40 years more and the time I invest in learning to use it it's not going to be wasted.

Re: Vim 8.0 is coming

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Post by dockerlocker »

Is there a way how I can copy blocks of code outside the vim window to another application without also copying the line numbers?

Also is there one simple key combination to [un]comment a line or a selected block?

I found out how to do many simple operations with this ancient tool, what can be really fun if you have nothing else funny in life (too many people have no other sources of fun, really) - but I am still not convinced. Many operations that are a no-brainer in e.g. geany take serious planning and studying in vim - this is absurd.

I fear that we are wasting many potentially good programmers because they accept the primitivism and stupid limitations of vim as something "cool" and will never again in their lives be able to program a user-friendly GUI because their brain is "vimed out". Maybe that is one of the reasons why we still have so much really bad software.

Once I was totally impressed by programmers, they were the wizards of today, superbrains, uber-humans. Then I learned programming and understood how many uncreative and cognitively limited people are just repeating stuff that somebody else has told them, without ever asking. Basically the typical obey-guy, the perfect follower who never questions any order will be that kind of a good programmer, reading manuals and getting happy that he is able to reproduce - there is no creative moment here. Only very few of them are part of a creative elite that actually brings new ideas to life - most of them are totally dumb rat soldiers just following the orders. This is the reason why such ultra-primitive tools like vim still exist.

Re: Vim 8.0 is coming

#35

Post by sillysaurus3 »

krylon wrote: post #26
pjmlp wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I became an heavy Emacs user as I could not find the comfort of Borland IDEs in UNIX, as I started to use it. Since I moved away from C++ into Java and .NET land, never felt the need to use them any longer. And nowadays, with Qt Creator, Clion, xCode, AppCode and VS, I also don't feel the need of them when I need to go back to C++. It is very good to know the basics from plain Vi, because there are still commercial U…

First of all, the key point of emacs is extensibility and customizability. So as new stuff comes up, e.g. new programming languages, debuggers, file formats, emacs can be extended without too much pain to work with them (and often, somebody has already done that for me). Secondly, working mainly as a sysadmin and only sometimes doing some development, I do far more with emacs than coding. I edit configuration files,…

I'm about to dive into org mode for the first time today. Do you have any tips for learning it?

My plan was to open up the manual and start reading, but maybe you found an article or tutorial that helped kickstart your org mode knowledge, so I thought I'd ask.

(Apologies if the question is a bit offtopic.)

Re: Vim 8.0 is coming

#36

Post by thomasahle »

aidos wrote: post #25
arnsholt wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since I happen to have the answer to both of those: `daw` and `diw` deletes a whole word (unlike `dw` which only deletes forward). They differ in what they do with whitespace; `aw` also trims trailing whitespace (or leading whitespace if there's no trailing) while `iw` leaves the whitespace alone. These two are text objects that can be combined with other commands and quantifiers, so that `yaw` copies a word without…

If I want to put parens around a word I do, ciw() P (change word pulls it into the default register, insert the parens and then paste from the register back between the parens). You can use the same pattern for any selection you have visually highlighted, such is the wonderful power of vim.

Nice use of the buffer. Is there a nice hack to remove the parentheses around a word as well?

Re: Vim 8.0 is coming

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Post by apers »

dockerlocker wrote: post #34

Is there a way how I can copy blocks of code outside the vim window to another application without also copying the line numbers? Also is there one simple key combination to [un]comment a line or a selected block? I found out how to do many simple operations with this ancient tool, what can be really fun if you have nothing else funny in life (too many people have no other sources of fun, really) - but I am still not…

:set nonumber removes the line numbers so you can copy without them

Re: Vim 8.0 is coming

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Post by justusw »

dockerlocker wrote: post #34

Is there a way how I can copy blocks of code outside the vim window to another application without also copying the line numbers? Also is there one simple key combination to [un]comment a line or a selected block? I found out how to do many simple operations with this ancient tool, what can be really fun if you have nothing else funny in life (too many people have no other sources of fun, really) - but I am still not…

> Is there a way how I can copy blocks of code outside the vim window to another application without also copying the line numbers?

If you're running vim in a terminal, there is an option to add native clipboard support to your yank registers. If you use vim under OS X and have installed it with brew, it will be added automatically. To check whether your current vim installation has clipboard support, try running `vim --version | grep +clipboard`.

You might also find this to be helpful: http://vimcasts.org/blog/2013/11/getting-vim-with-clipboard-...

Re: Vim 8.0 is coming

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Post by codingmonkey23 »

dockerlocker wrote: post #34

Is there a way how I can copy blocks of code outside the vim window to another application without also copying the line numbers? Also is there one simple key combination to [un]comment a line or a selected block? I found out how to do many simple operations with this ancient tool, what can be really fun if you have nothing else funny in life (too many people have no other sources of fun, really) - but I am still not…

most terminals support "rectangle copy" - just keep ctrl pressed and you can select a rectangle from whatever top-left starting point - easy way to copy only content without deactivating line numbering.

Re: Vim 8.0 is coming

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Post by JetSpiegel »

dockerlocker wrote: post #34

Is there a way how I can copy blocks of code outside the vim window to another application without also copying the line numbers? Also is there one simple key combination to [un]comment a line or a selected block? I found out how to do many simple operations with this ancient tool, what can be really fun if you have nothing else funny in life (too many people have no other sources of fun, really) - but I am still not…

There are plugins for that. Check out vim-easyclip, and for comments theres vim-commentary(barebones) or nerdcommenter(loads of advanced features).
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