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Re: Facebook Messenger Platform

#91

Post by brazzledazzle »

Johnie wrote: post #41
hayksaakian wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real question is can you get in, win, and get out before any of that matters. If you 'rode the facebook apps' wave you probably made decent money unless you stayed in too long. Another strategy is to build an integration to messenger to get exposure for your totally independant app. For example If i made some pizza ordering ai, i could hook it up to messenger as an additional channel.

If you look at some of the successful startups that started on a platform, this is what they did. Example: Instagram - used Facebook for viral distribution and eventually eclipsed Facebook Imgur - built image hosting for Reddit and now has eclipsed Reddit.

I'm curious, so does that mean imgur has more active users now?

Re: Facebook Messenger Platform

#92

Post by ethanpil »

I'm crying. Remember when messaging was built on open platforms and standards like XMPP and IRC? The golden year(s?) when Google Talk worked with AIM and anyone could choose whatever client they preferred?

Welcome to the future friends when we must pay to battle the keymasters and gatekeepers on their terms to do what we used to do ourselves, for free.

First they took my RSS, then they took my XMPP... Who can guess whats next?

Re: Facebook Messenger Platform

#93

Post by galistoca »

pionar wrote: post #87
Johnie wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look at some of the successful startups that started on a platform, this is what they did. Example: Instagram - used Facebook for viral distribution and eventually eclipsed Facebook Imgur - built image hosting for Reddit and now has eclipsed Reddit.

> Instagram - used Facebook for viral distribution and eventually eclipsed Facebook Imgur - built image hosting for Reddit and now has eclipsed Reddit. Uh, not quite. Imgur would still die if Reddit went away. Same for Instagram. If Twitter and FB went away, it'd die.

Imgur might, but I doubt Instagram will die if FB and Twitter went away.

Re: Facebook Messenger Platform

#94

Post by gue5t »

hayksaakian wrote: post #8
aaron-lebo wrote: post #6

Facebook disregards your rights as a creator, user, and individual. I've read enough history to know what sharecropping looks like. Tell me how this is different than sharecropping. Why should I build something I don't control on Lord Zuckerberg's platform so I can play the startup lottery? We did this almost a decade ago. Facebook introduced their developer platform and people started giving up their freedoms. This…

The real question is can you get in, win, and get out before any of that matters. If you 'rode the facebook apps' wave you probably made decent money unless you stayed in too long. Another strategy is to build an integration to messenger to get exposure for your totally independant app. For example If i made some pizza ordering ai, i could hook it up to messenger as an additional channel.

There's a word for people who only care about their own quality of life, and not that of those around them: "assholes".

Don't be an asshole, and don't advocate "fuck you got mine" practices like these. Let's work to dismantle abusive systems like Facebook.

Re: Facebook Messenger Platform

#98

Post by kayoone »

nns wrote: post #11

Wouldn't it be wise for Facebook to just replace Messenger with WhatsApp and offer that as a platform?

Messenger and WhatsApp are popular in different regions but combine both and you have the lions share of worldwide mobile chat users. For example, Messenger is much more dominant in the US, while WhatsApp is crazy popular in places like Brazil or Germany. So i guess they are just starting with the US market (Messenger) and will eventually offer similar stuff on WhatsApp.

Re: Facebook Messenger Platform

#100

Post by lallysingh »

lazzlazzlazz wrote: post #16
mooseburger wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's hilarious. Everyone uses WhatsApp for their friend group.

Maybe everyone that you know. Surely Facebook has the data to make a distinction like this.

They may not have that data in a form useful for comparison, and the data may conflict with your assumption. Intra business politics / desired integrations / engineering reasons can dissuade teams from a pure data-based decision.
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