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Things They Don't Teach You in School

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So I guess this was a comedy piece? Some more serious issues I've noticed: #1. They don't teach you that teachers are paid to put up with you. Employers aren't paid to put up with you. They're paid to fire people who waste their time and interfere with the work that needs to get done. #2. They don't teach you how to not waste people's time. Some of the group activities that force mingling are the worst. Most real wor…

> They don't teach you the degree has little value.

It's true you can get a degree, even an engineering degree, without learning much of any value. But if you go to college to actually get an education, the degree is simply a side effect.

If you avoid the hard classes, do as little as possible, etc., and get a degree but don't be surprised to find out that degree is worthless.

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>Black lives matter So, how do we stop them from killing each other? You're probably now going to tell me that cops are racist but copy in the USA are assholes no matter your race. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/...

Those statistics are eye opening. I wonder why they are never touched upon during the numerous debates during election season in the US.

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So I guess this was a comedy piece? Some more serious issues I've noticed: #1. They don't teach you that teachers are paid to put up with you. Employers aren't paid to put up with you. They're paid to fire people who waste their time and interfere with the work that needs to get done. #2. They don't teach you how to not waste people's time. Some of the group activities that force mingling are the worst. Most real wor…

#2. They don't teach you how to not waste people's time. Some of the group activities that force mingling are the worst. Most real work does not require communication, especially at entry level positions. Take instructions once, and just deliver what is being asked of you. That assumes some sort of weird universe where instructions are always perfect. I don't live in that universe. Every person who does paid work of…

Communication skills are important, but you need to know when to shut the fuck up. That's what's universally important and entirely true.

Instructions are never perfect. It's whether you can get the job done anyway, once you know what is being asked of you, which is mostly a one time initiation. Ever see someone repeatedly asking and questioning what is being asked of them? That's someone who is going to struggle for the rest of their lives in every professional environment someone accidentally put them in.

Supervisors don't want to hear about imperfections that you could have worked around yourself. You aren't being paid to call and talk and yap. You're being paid to deliver. Your approach is academic already, and goes to prove my point. Instructions only need to meet you half way. In fact, less the more for you. This is why it's completely academically backwards. The more you get done with fewer instructions, the more valuable you are because you cost less time.

Imagine a Postal Worker questioning the features on their mobile device (which clearly suck). They're being paid to work with it, not question it and talk about it.

Communication skills are important, but communication itself is an absolute bottleneck in any workflow (with emphasis on flow). Minimize communication volume, and maximize communication value. Work is no excuse to talk.

But that doesn't mean all work is anti-academic. Most of it is though. The best academic jobs will always be in academia.

Re: Things They Don't Teach You in School

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>Black lives matter So, how do we stop them from killing each other? You're probably now going to tell me that cops are racist but copy in the USA are assholes no matter your race. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/...

I can think of several structural changes the US could make to their society if this was actually a priority for them.

The way you phrase the question it appears you can't think of any, even though you go on to immediately mention one from my list: dysfuntional cops.

Like the deaths, you seem fatalistic about changing policing, apparently asshole cops are just a fact of life to you rather than a result of broken institutions.

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#2. They don't teach you how to not waste people's time. Some of the group activities that force mingling are the worst. Most real work does not require communication, especially at entry level positions. Take instructions once, and just deliver what is being asked of you. That assumes some sort of weird universe where instructions are always perfect. I don't live in that universe. Every person who does paid work of…

Communication skills are important, but you need to know when to shut the fuck up. That's what's universally important and entirely true. Instructions are never perfect. It's whether you can get the job done anyway, once you know what is being asked of you, which is mostly a one time initiation. Ever see someone repeatedly asking and questioning what is being asked of them? That's someone who is going to struggle for…

Work is no excuse to talk.

I understand that there are people who prefer to work in silence, concentrating on nothing but the task at hand, but the suggestion that everyone should be like that is idiotic. There is a wide variety of people in the workplace; we aren't all the same. The idea that office hours should be limited to work and nothing else betrays who we are: living, sociable human beings.

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