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New Steam beta replaces Trident/IE with WebKit

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Re: New Steam beta replaces Trident/IE with WebKit

#12

Great! Maybe now they'll update counter-strike.

That will never be done, I played source for many years and for the year that they updated it and ruined many competitive features it wasn't that great and actually made me buy a new computer to even play the game with an HDR update. Now I can see them release a new Counterstrike in a few years that looks and plays tf2 but thats about it.

Re: New Steam beta replaces Trident/IE with WebKit

#14

Specifically, they're using the Chromium Embedded Framework: http://code.google.com/p/chromiumembedded/ http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Chromium_Embedded_Fr... I'm looking forward to seeing them release the modified source. Always nice to see a game studio participate in the open source community.

One more bit of evidence that the GPL may not be the best thing for Open Source software. Think about it: if CEF used GPL, Valve might not have used it fearing that if they built Steam and decided they did not wish to release the source, they would have no choice but to not distribute Steam. With the BSD license, they could put in the work and decide once the project was complete whether or not to release the source code. But now we get a shiny new Steam and the source code. Epic win for everyone involved.

Re: New Steam beta replaces Trident/IE with WebKit

#17
Semi-related yet off-topic, but in not divulging their sales figures, Valve is hurting the PC as a gaming platform in huge and undeniable ways. They are, in essence, destroying it by making it appear that no one buys games for Windows. All format charts are dominated by console titles and almost all games are initially developed for those and pooly ported to the PC in what seems to be an afterthought. Piracy is then blamed for those apparently falling sales figures and the PC is no longer an attractive platform for development.

Re: New Steam beta replaces Trident/IE with WebKit

#18
post #6

I wonder if this a step towards multi-platform Steam...

There's OS X style close buttons and menu layouts in the Steam files now, so I'd guess that multiplatform Steam is a good bet.

I'll send a big bunch of flowers to the good peeps at Valve if they deliver Steam, TF2 and CSS for Mac OS X!

I already bought these games, but wouldn't mind paying a bit more again just to cover the port costs.

Re: New Steam beta replaces Trident/IE with WebKit

#19

Specifically, they're using the Chromium Embedded Framework: http://code.google.com/p/chromiumembedded/ http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Chromium_Embedded_Fr... I'm looking forward to seeing them release the modified source. Always nice to see a game studio participate in the open source community.

One more bit of evidence that the GPL may not be the best thing for Open Source software. Think about it: if CEF used GPL, Valve might not have used it fearing that if they built Steam and decided they did not wish to release the source, they would have no choice but to not distribute Steam. With the BSD license, they could put in the work and decide once the project was complete whether or not to release the source…

The GPL cannot force somebody to release their source code.

Re: New Steam beta replaces Trident/IE with WebKit

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One more bit of evidence that the GPL may not be the best thing for Open Source software. Think about it: if CEF used GPL, Valve might not have used it fearing that if they built Steam and decided they did not wish to release the source, they would have no choice but to not distribute Steam. With the BSD license, they could put in the work and decide once the project was complete whether or not to release the source…

The GPL cannot force somebody to release their source code.

You are mistaken if you believe that you can distribute an application built using GPL code and not release the source code (and all derived code) as well. In the event that you were confused by my wording, check again. I have attempted to clarify.
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