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Re: Content is dead

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Post by basch » Sat, Apr 09, 2016, 6:42 PM UTC

pcmaffey wrote: post #32

virmundi wrote: post #16

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Just a small point about micropayments. The current system is not micro. Micro is hundredths of a cent or less. At that price point it might be possible to use them. Sadly not even bitcoin (afaik) can handle such transactions. Transaction costs are too high under every system. Even IBM's research- a few years ago, bottomed out at 25 cents.

Seems awkward (and pricey, as mentioned) to handle an actual transaction each time. Why not just have a browser extension that aggregates and bills monthly? Like the opposite of an ad-blocker, an ad-unlocker. This has probably been discussed somewhere...

a tip on upvote button?

Re: Content is dead

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Post by basch » Sat, Apr 09, 2016, 6:43 PM UTC

leereeves wrote: post #108

narrowrail wrote: post #93

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I think it would be quite straight forward to develop an extension that does client-side analytics of your browsing history, just to show you which sites you visit and how much time you spend per url/ TLD. It would be on your honor to choose to give 'patronage' and the code is auditable as a browser extension.

If it's "on your honor", why not just ask for donations?

frictionless. if i had an extension that let me put an amount into it at the begining, and then let me divide up who i thought was worthy of my pledge at the end of the month... no need to find tip jars and make a bunch of payments

Re: Content is dead

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Post by intrasight » Sun, Apr 10, 2016, 2:12 AM UTC

manigandham wrote: post #107

intrasight wrote: post #104

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You are completely off the mark there, buddy. Ad blockers don't use AI image recognition - and besides, that technology doesn't exist yet.

I said rules as in basic network, HTML, CSS filtering rules that are created by people, and these filters are shared by all the major adblockers. If you ever look at these filters, you'll notice that domains aren't the only thing they block but rather things like checking the dimensions of images for standard ad banner sizes, etc. - so even if that banner was run by the same site, it would still be blocked.

Yes, that would be true. But I'm suggesting something more radical - that either a) there are no links - an ad is just an image and is served by the publication, or b) the image does have a link, but again it is to a page hosted by that publication - perhaps with a query if the visitor would like more information from the sponsor.

Re: Content is dead

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Post by manigandham » Sun, Apr 10, 2016, 2:38 AM UTC

intrasight wrote: post #113

manigandham wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I said rules as in basic network, HTML, CSS filtering rules that are created by people, and these filters are shared by all the major adblockers. If you ever look at these filters, you'll notice that domains aren't the only thing they block but rather things like checking the dimensions of images for standard ad banner sizes, etc. - so even if that banner was run by the same site, it would still be blocked.

Yes, that would be true. But I'm suggesting something more radical - that either a) there are no links - an ad is just an image and is served by the publication, or b) the image does have a link, but again it is to a page hosted by that publication - perhaps with a query if the visitor would like more information from the sponsor.

Ignoring the amount of work I described in selling ads directly, this still doesnt solve anything.

In a few days at most, the filters will be updated to catch these images as well.