Very sorry to make an aesthetic complaint, and Raleway is a fine font for certain applications, but blogs that use low contrast fine raleway for the body text just kinda make me want to read something else.
Why Go gets criticized so much
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#22Why would anyone think Go and Rust are bitter rivals? They're great tools for different things, with a broad margin of overlap.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
i would argue that for most people here Go = GoLang i had never heard of the go game, before the ai go thing
I don't know what the basis for your argument would be. Go the game and GoLang are both fairly talked about topics in Computer Science, most programmers do not program in GoLang (according to Github), and the AI match was a big deal for Computer Science in general. I would not be so quick to say that for MOST people here Go = GoLang, and agree with the parent comment.
Just because most programmers don't actually program in Go themselves, it doesn't mean they don't know what it is.
I haven't written a single line in Go, and yet it's immediately obvious to me what the title refererred to.
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#24Couldn't this argument be made about all languages? People into dynamically typed languages would have statically typed languages for the same "don't touch my identity!" reason.
I personally don't "hate" go. To be honest, I have barely read 20 lines of go ever. But I do not like the idea of a language specifically designed to limit my possibilities. I want to keep seeing "programming" as an art and a creative activity. Not as a factory-like process where there is only one way to do thing, all developers are inter-changeable, etc.
I get why it's interesting for big corpos like Google. I just don't have to like it :)
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#25``Go is not meant to innovate programming theory. It’s meant to innovate programming practice." – Samuel Tesla http://go-lang.cat-v.org/ And as usual, http://9front.org/who/uriel/
And as usual, http://9front.org/who/uriel/
Can you give some background?
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#26Offtopic: Can we please use "GoLang" for the language, so we can use "Go" unambiguously for the game? Especially in titles, where there is little context.
I do find the name extremely unfortunate. It's impossible to search for, as "go" is an extremely common word (bad for search engines) and substring (bad for ctrl-F find). I tried searching for shared web hosts that provide Go support and just gave up. Kind of hilarious to see a first-party Google language be impossible to search for.
Using "golang" instead of "Go" nearly always gives the correct results in my experience.
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#27I don't hate Go. I do strongly dislike posts with clickbaity titles that have an admission the title is wrong in the very first sentence. The rest of the article is little better. It can be summed up in one line: People who dislike Go are upset because they incorporated their favourite programming language into their identity, and the success of Go challenges their own choices . Although I don't hate Go, I also don't…
I am not agreeing with your sentiment for Go but I do want to strongly agree with this statement:
> I'm afraid I might end up having to maintain code written in it one day
I have similar fears about Ruby. This is also true of many contractor firms where they write beautiful tested code which is designed to work really well right now, but not designed to last (think views rendering database objects).
I think this is a sentiment people need to have when they see something cool or some sort of solution: Will I, in 4 years, want to maintain this? Will some person, in 4 years, curse my name for having written this?
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#28I think there is a better explanation for why people dislike Go. All programming languages currently used for the web have gigantic downsides. They're slow. They have terrible package management. They have poor standard libraries. They have no static typing. They have no visual debuggers. They have no good IDE support. They don't integrate well with frontend code. Some programming languages are more flawed than others, and no programming language fails on every front, but they're all pretty objectively terrible.
Then Google announces Go. A cross-platform systems programming languages for high quality web services. That sounds great! I can't wait to see what Google came up with.
So when people saw Go disappointment set in. It has some great properties, but the language is not expressive. So Go web frameworks (like Revel) generate Go code at compile time to get the dynamic parts working. Just like we did in the 70s to work around C's shortcomings. Want a container for a specific type? Code generation! It's so clumsy. The lack of exceptions makes writing correct code really tedious. A web service is not a device driver where every edge case has to be carefully considered. Bailing out with an exception is fine. Go disagrees.
I think the disappointment in what Go could have been explains the vocal dislike. There are only a few companies in the world that can create a new programming language and ensure it becomes popular. Don't get me wrong. Go isn't a bad language. It's just not the language that will push the web forward, and Google was in a unique position to create a programming language that would.
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#29I like Go but I hate my self for it.
Re: Why Go gets criticized so much
#30I don't hate Go. I do strongly dislike posts with clickbaity titles that have an admission the title is wrong in the very first sentence. The rest of the article is little better. It can be summed up in one line: People who dislike Go are upset because they incorporated their favourite programming language into their identity, and the success of Go challenges their own choices . Although I don't hate Go, I also don't…
If that's an accurate summary (I am not commenting on that fact), it's a completely clickbaity summary. Because it applies equally to why everyone hates every even semi-popular language (other than their one true love, if it's considered sufficiently popular).
For a one line summary, it's pretty accurate, but it's also a great illustration of why basing opinions on one line summaries is often a bad idea.
The difference between Go and pretty much every other semi-popular language is that Go is very much defined by what it isn't rather than by what it is. In that way, its success is an implicit criticism of other languages much more than the success of any other language would be.