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How Meadow Is Building a Company and Community Around Cannabis

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Re: How Meadow Is Building a Company and Community Around Cannabis

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Post by wavefunction »

azinman2 wrote: post #6
blackguardx wrote: post #3

I wonder what kind of regulations exist for Meadow. When I opened up a business (not marijuana related) bank account in Colorado, they only had one question: "Is this a marijuana business?"

I was wondering the same. Because they're a middle man perhaps they can take in cash and deposit it into a normal bank account?

It depends on Federal prosecutors.

Considering that concert and event venues were seized under crack-house laws in the early 2000s simply for hosting music events that featured drug use by attendees, actually facilitating drug use seems like not much of a stretch.

ps. I am in favor of complete legalization including the right to grow your own and sell, barter or gift your product to adults over the age of 18.

Re: How Meadow Is Building a Company and Community Around Cannabis

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Post by dinkumthinkum »

Animats wrote: post #4

The DEA is now looking into moving marijuana off schedule I. That would make it a regular prescription drug, with regular prescriptions, distribution through pharmacies, and insurance coverage. If that happens, the whole "dispensary" business will collapse.

I don't think that's true in the real world. It's more complicated. First of all, I get that for a certain minority of users, it is very much seen as a "medicine" but for the majority it is tongue in cheek game and the dispensaries use all sorts of medical language but at the same time treating it as some sort of fine wine. Normally pharmacists don't ask "Would you like the OG Azithromycin or the Sour Diesel version?"

It is very much a recreational users "drug," whatever you want call it, first and therefore engenders many characteristics of its sales.

A normal pharmacist is not going to walk the consumer through all the different kinds of "highs" the "patient" can get from different variations of Vicodin the way a dispensary worker would with canabis.

As well, I doubt CVS will start hanging "420" and Bob Marley posters all over the place or provide the kind "canabis experience" that consumers will want, for various, which will continue to be served by the dispensaries.

There are many strains that are cultivated for improving recreational experiences, I don't see Walgreens catering to this. So, I think the dispensaries will continue to exist in a significant way, but sure some of their business will be taken away but perhaps because of other effects the market for dispensaries will be expanded.

Re: How Meadow Is Building a Company and Community Around Cannabis

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Post by jkaunisv1 »

dinkumthinkum wrote: post #12
Animats wrote: post #4

The DEA is now looking into moving marijuana off schedule I. That would make it a regular prescription drug, with regular prescriptions, distribution through pharmacies, and insurance coverage. If that happens, the whole "dispensary" business will collapse.

I don't think that's true in the real world. It's more complicated. First of all, I get that for a certain minority of users, it is very much seen as a "medicine" but for the majority it is tongue in cheek game and the dispensaries use all sorts of medical language but at the same time treating it as some sort of fine wine. Normally pharmacists don't ask "Would you like the OG Azithromycin or the Sour Diesel version?…

You're mostly right, but there are enough differences between strains of cannabis that while not quite the same, it's more like a doctor talking over whether Lorazepam or Xanax would be better for you. Dispensaries do probably take it too far, but I haven't been to any.

Even for those who use "recreationally", there are different goals. Some people use it to sit on the couch and watch netflix. Some use it to clean their bathrooms. Some use it while snowboarding or rock climbing. A lot of people use it to self-medicate anxiety and other issues. And different strains can be better for each of those.

As much as there may be a difference in flavour for wines, they all get you drunk the same way. Not so with cannabis.

Re: How Meadow Is Building a Company and Community Around Cannabis

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Post by azinman2 »

wavefunction wrote: post #11
azinman2 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was wondering the same. Because they're a middle man perhaps they can take in cash and deposit it into a normal bank account?

It depends on Federal prosecutors. Considering that concert and event venues were seized under crack-house laws in the early 2000s simply for hosting music events that featured drug use by attendees, actually facilitating drug use seems like not much of a stretch. ps. I am in favor of complete legalization including the right to grow your own and sell, barter or gift your product to adults over the age of 18.

Good point, although banks are very conservative (with this kind of stuff). My guess is they'll want some kind of assurance from some fed commission to say this is ok or not ok, or some kind of CYA framework to follow.

Re: How Meadow Is Building a Company and Community Around Cannabis

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Post by adnam »

GordonS wrote: post #16
adnam wrote: post #15

I know it's an unpopular view here, but I hope Meadow fails and that the tide of opinion turns against marijuana legalisation and the Big Dope lobby.

Why?

The often peddled argument is that cannabis is a "soft drug" is, according to what I have seen, a complete lie. It is capable of completely and permanently altering a person's personality in negative ways. Also, I would not want my kids using it.

Re: How Meadow Is Building a Company and Community Around Cannabis

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Post by GordonS »

adnam wrote: post #17
GordonS wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

The often peddled argument is that cannabis is a "soft drug" is, according to what I have seen, a complete lie. It is capable of completely and permanently altering a person's personality in negative ways. Also, I would not want my kids using it.

> It is capable of completely and permanently altering a person's personality in negative ways

Yes, it should be used in moderation - like alcohol, which is a more dangerous, legal drug.

Re: How Meadow Is Building a Company and Community Around Cannabis

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Post by adnam »

GordonS wrote: post #18
adnam wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The often peddled argument is that cannabis is a "soft drug" is, according to what I have seen, a complete lie. It is capable of completely and permanently altering a person's personality in negative ways. Also, I would not want my kids using it.

> It is capable of completely and permanently altering a person's personality in negative ways Yes, it should be used in moderation - like alcohol, which is a more dangerous, legal drug.

Pointing out the existence of a worse legal poison is not a very good argument for the legalisation of another one. Perhaps it should not be used at all.

Re: How Meadow Is Building a Company and Community Around Cannabis

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Post by GordonS »

adnam wrote: post #19
GordonS wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is capable of completely and permanently altering a person's personality in negative ways Yes, it should be used in moderation - like alcohol, which is a more dangerous, legal drug.

Pointing out the existence of a worse legal poison is not a very good argument for the legalisation of another one. Perhaps it should not be used at all.

Another argument is the incredible damage that drug prohibition has done to our society. Millions of drug users have been criminalised and/or jailed just because they wanted to alter their state of mind. Drugs on the street are often tainted with adulterants. Violent drug cartels have wreaked absolute havoc on entire countries.

The war on drugs does not work, so let's take a fresh approach.

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