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Technologists have produced a 3D-printed painting in the style of Rembrandt

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youtube video showing the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuygOYZ1Ngo

Thank you. A lot more information in that video than in the article. Looks like it was half human and half algorithm. Still very interesting way of making imitation paintings.

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If it were a -human- painting a fake Rembrandt, no matter how perfect an imitation, it would be called "a very very good imitation of Rembrandt" and nobody would claim that they'd in any sense brought Rembrandt back to life. Calling a very good forged Rembrandt a "new Rembrandt" would be pretty silly. Calling one generated by a computer a "new Rembrandt" seems just as silly. Just because it was composed by an algorit…

Computers are our new babies. We applause and cheer for anything trivial they come up with.

Re: Technologists have produced a 3D-printed painting in the style of Rembrandt

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elephants do really good abstract impressionism as long as you tell them when to stop.

http://www.getty.edu/education/teacherartexchange/archive/No...

Not to say that rembrandt = abstract impressionism. Still, the humans tagging features is kind of a copout. The 'grain of salt' for these projects is to look at the variation of outputs when you tweak the model inputs. In this case it's going to be a head with oil paint texture 9 times out of 10 (and the tenth will be cecilia jimenez 'I fix').

It won't be long until a computer can 'participate' in a genre and really contribute to art. This project, while cool, isn't there yet.

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If it were a -human- painting a fake Rembrandt, no matter how perfect an imitation, it would be called "a very very good imitation of Rembrandt" and nobody would claim that they'd in any sense brought Rembrandt back to life. Calling a very good forged Rembrandt a "new Rembrandt" would be pretty silly. Calling one generated by a computer a "new Rembrandt" seems just as silly. Just because it was composed by an algorit…

I think the goal of the project was to make a painting that is statistically indistinguishable from his other paintings. Another painter painting in his style would still inject some of their own style and technique into it. If you looked closely or took statistics from two painters trying to mimic the same style, you would be able to distinguish them.

Here they went to great lengths to try to make it very accurate. Everything from the shape of eyes and faces and the patterns of brush strokes.

Re: Technologists have produced a 3D-printed painting in the style of Rembrandt

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If it were a -human- painting a fake Rembrandt, no matter how perfect an imitation, it would be called "a very very good imitation of Rembrandt" and nobody would claim that they'd in any sense brought Rembrandt back to life. Calling a very good forged Rembrandt a "new Rembrandt" would be pretty silly. Calling one generated by a computer a "new Rembrandt" seems just as silly. Just because it was composed by an algorit…

Computers are our new babies. We applause and cheer for anything trivial they come up with.

I think it might just be a simple as interpreting your work in the most significant way increases exposure and potential grant money.

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I feel like it's misleading of them to say that a computer painted the picture. That makes it sound like all works of Rembrandt have been fed into a Machine Learning algorithm and finally the computer spit out this piece.

After having watched the YouTube video, I fell like actually the picture was more or less photoshopped together from existing Rembrandt paintings. The role of the algorithms was "only" to generate the most average / representative of his works.

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youtube video showing the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuygOYZ1Ngo

They said they incorporated the height map from the original.

How did they obtain them? Do museums/galleries/owners let scientists or engineers study the layers of paint of the physical paintings?

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If it were a -human- painting a fake Rembrandt, no matter how perfect an imitation, it would be called "a very very good imitation of Rembrandt" and nobody would claim that they'd in any sense brought Rembrandt back to life. Calling a very good forged Rembrandt a "new Rembrandt" would be pretty silly. Calling one generated by a computer a "new Rembrandt" seems just as silly. Just because it was composed by an algorit…

I think the goal of the project was to make a painting that is statistically indistinguishable from his other paintings. Another painter painting in his style would still inject some of their own style and technique into it. If you looked closely or took statistics from two painters trying to mimic the same style, you would be able to distinguish them. Here they went to great lengths to try to make it very accurate.…

Statistically indistinguishable by what measure? One of many we could come up with, no doubt. If an expert were to look closely at this, perhaps they would also distinguish them, by something the statistics didn't quantify.

An expert forger would be trying to make a painting that is literally indistinguishable from an actual Rembrandt, which is much harder. The GP's point was that something that can fool an algorithm is no more deserving the label "new Rembrandt" than something that can fool a human.

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