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The Obama Administration Has Embraced Legal Theories Broader Than John Yoo's

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Re: The Obama Administration Has Embraced Legal Theories Broader Than John Yoo's

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I was really hoping that barack would be the con-law president. If uchicago hasn't moved down in the rankings because their prof. emeritus is so bad at 'rule of law in practice', there's something wrong with the ranking system.

It's shocking to hear a guy who was a professional legal theorist argue that something is legal based on the fact that he ordered the DOJ to write a memo.

Re: The Obama Administration Has Embraced Legal Theories Broader Than John Yoo's

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I was really hoping that barack would be the con-law president. If uchicago hasn't moved down in the rankings because their prof. emeritus is so bad at 'rule of law in practice', there's something wrong with the ranking system. It's shocking to hear a guy who was a professional legal theorist argue that something is legal based on the fact that he ordered the DOJ to write a memo.

I wish more university rankings would have the results of their students held against them. An exit test of abilities, logic, and knowledge would be a great ranking system.

Additionally, when Presidents claim to be constitution law focused and fail in almost all of the concepts of following the constitution, the professors have failed and the department should be redacted down, similar to the division system in soccer.

Re: The Obama Administration Has Embraced Legal Theories Broader Than John Yoo's

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post #3

I was really hoping that barack would be the con-law president. If uchicago hasn't moved down in the rankings because their prof. emeritus is so bad at 'rule of law in practice', there's something wrong with the ranking system. It's shocking to hear a guy who was a professional legal theorist argue that something is legal based on the fact that he ordered the DOJ to write a memo.

I wish more university rankings would have the results of their students held against them. An exit test of abilities, logic, and knowledge would be a great ranking system. Additionally, when Presidents claim to be constitution law focused and fail in almost all of the concepts of following the constitution, the professors have failed and the department should be redacted down, similar to the division system in socce…

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Re: The Obama Administration Has Embraced Legal Theories Broader Than John Yoo's

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post #3

I was really hoping that barack would be the con-law president. If uchicago hasn't moved down in the rankings because their prof. emeritus is so bad at 'rule of law in practice', there's something wrong with the ranking system. It's shocking to hear a guy who was a professional legal theorist argue that something is legal based on the fact that he ordered the DOJ to write a memo.

I wish more university rankings would have the results of their students held against them. An exit test of abilities, logic, and knowledge would be a great ranking system. Additionally, when Presidents claim to be constitution law focused and fail in almost all of the concepts of following the constitution, the professors have failed and the department should be redacted down, similar to the division system in socce…

Perhaps one should consider if a "constitutional scholar" is the perfect candidate to dismantle the Constitution bit by bit rather than someone who holds true to whatever your definitions of "Constitutional" are.

I'll admit I voted for the guy the first time, but I was hoping for some significant differences in what we ended up with. Partially the fault of the obstructionist opposing party as well.

Re: The Obama Administration Has Embraced Legal Theories Broader Than John Yoo's

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I was really hoping that barack would be the con-law president. If uchicago hasn't moved down in the rankings because their prof. emeritus is so bad at 'rule of law in practice', there's something wrong with the ranking system. It's shocking to hear a guy who was a professional legal theorist argue that something is legal based on the fact that he ordered the DOJ to write a memo.

Obama's reign was never about hope and change; it was always about der Wille zur Macht. Riddle me this -- what if Obama became a Constitutional law professor not so much to study, understand, and teach about the Constitution and its checks on government power, but to give scholarly support to a loose interpretation of the Constitution which does not meaningfully restrain government power?

Re: The Obama Administration Has Embraced Legal Theories Broader Than John Yoo's

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I was really hoping that barack would be the con-law president. If uchicago hasn't moved down in the rankings because their prof. emeritus is so bad at 'rule of law in practice', there's something wrong with the ranking system. It's shocking to hear a guy who was a professional legal theorist argue that something is legal based on the fact that he ordered the DOJ to write a memo.

One needs to always remember that those not yet in power have issues with how others use it, once their side is in power they are quite happy with maintaining the status quo or expanding it.

Re: The Obama Administration Has Embraced Legal Theories Broader Than John Yoo's

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post #6

I was really hoping that barack would be the con-law president. If uchicago hasn't moved down in the rankings because their prof. emeritus is so bad at 'rule of law in practice', there's something wrong with the ranking system. It's shocking to hear a guy who was a professional legal theorist argue that something is legal based on the fact that he ordered the DOJ to write a memo.

Obama's reign was never about hope and change; it was always about der Wille zur Macht . Riddle me this -- what if Obama became a Constitutional law professor not so much to study, understand, and teach about the Constitution and its checks on government power, but to give scholarly support to a loose interpretation of the Constitution which does not meaningfully restrain government power ?

As far as I see, he only really taught some fluff courses on "rights, race and gender." [1] Not quite what comes to the minds of most lawyers and law students when someone says "con law professor."

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/us/politics/30law.html?pag...

Re: The Obama Administration Has Embraced Legal Theories Broader Than John Yoo's

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish more university rankings would have the results of their students held against them. An exit test of abilities, logic, and knowledge would be a great ranking system. Additionally, when Presidents claim to be constitution law focused and fail in almost all of the concepts of following the constitution, the professors have failed and the department should be redacted down, similar to the division system in socce…

Perhaps one should consider if a "constitutional scholar" is the perfect candidate to dismantle the Constitution bit by bit rather than someone who holds true to whatever your definitions of "Constitutional" are. I'll admit I voted for the guy the first time, but I was hoping for some significant differences in what we ended up with. Partially the fault of the obstructionist opposing party as well.

When he was elected, I was happy, perhaps he could enact the changes that needed to be made to reign in some of the spying, ridiculous defense contracts, and other items. I based this on the "not red or blue country" speech at the DNC convention. That hope passed quickly when he made the "I won" comment to the Republicans instead of just assuaging or listening to their now valid concerns.

I would argue that the obstructionism during the first two years should not be considered a factor based on the make-up of the Congress. The Democrat congress and President would have been able to hold the majority if they had not stirred up the hornet's nest of populism from the right through the healthcare act fiasco. Had he just focused on creating jobs, winding the war in Iraq and Afghanistan to a manageable level of involvement, and proselytized about family being important, we would not be having Trump running for office today.

Re: The Obama Administration Has Embraced Legal Theories Broader Than John Yoo's

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post #3

I was really hoping that barack would be the con-law president. If uchicago hasn't moved down in the rankings because their prof. emeritus is so bad at 'rule of law in practice', there's something wrong with the ranking system. It's shocking to hear a guy who was a professional legal theorist argue that something is legal based on the fact that he ordered the DOJ to write a memo.

I wish more university rankings would have the results of their students held against them. An exit test of abilities, logic, and knowledge would be a great ranking system. Additionally, when Presidents claim to be constitution law focused and fail in almost all of the concepts of following the constitution, the professors have failed and the department should be redacted down, similar to the division system in socce…

They already take the LSAT to get in, what more logic test stats do you want

- Edit - it's a legitimate question, moreso than hand-waving about "post graduation logic tests".

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