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Discovery of 1,000-year-old Viking site in Canada could rewrite history

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Re: Discovery of 1,000-year-old Viking site in Canada could rewrite history

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Indeed. The sagas describe the discovered land as Vinland because they found wild grapes growing everywhere. Which does not describe Newfoundland, especially not the northern tip of it where the L'anse aux Meadows sits. (I've been there. It's cold and desolate. We watched icebergs float around 100 feet from the shore). But up the gulf of St Lawrence a bit you'll find wild populations of vitis riparia growing like cra…

The sagas was also mostly written down in the 11th century, long time after the event, based on the oral tradition. Although they put more pride into retelling stories accuratly back then, it is not unlikely that the details had altered during that period. There are many other sides of the sagas that have proven inaccurate. For the sea level, this is areas that was covered by ice during the last ice age, and these ar…

Eastern North America is the genetic centre of diversity for the Vitis genus, and the likely ancestral origin of it. So it is somewhat fitting that the Norse explorers named it Vinland and explicitly called it out as something they observed.

Re: Discovery of 1,000-year-old Viking site in Canada could rewrite history

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Of course it's realistic. The Malagasy people are descendants of Polynesians who crossed the Indian Ocean to Madagascar, in canoes. With calm seas, there's no reason you couldn't make such a trip. Canoes can have sails too, and you can row your way out of the doldrums.

But the route from Polynesia to Madagascar can be traveled along the shoreline of Asia and Africa, so can be completed without navigational aides. The crossing from Africa to South America is 3000 km of nothing but ocean.

Amyr Klink crossed the Atlantic in a rowing boat from Namibia to the north coast of Brazil in 1984, it took him around 100 days [1]. He seems to remain the only one to have accomplished such a feat. Very little information in english seems to be avaiable though. The boat can be seems in the background of this video [2] (in portuguese).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyr_Klink

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz5zWCpIKT0

Re: Discovery of 1,000-year-old Viking site in Canada could rewrite history

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Captains of the era were known for keeping meticulous navigational and meteorological records. Did this hold true even for those indulging in secret activities?

This my speculation, but it's more than likely that they did. The sea will kill you if you aren't careful, and even when you are. Sharing records with other captains may save your life someday. Recordkeeping at sea has a long tradition.

Some more speculation - the crew wants to get paid, so the captain has to keep good records of the catch else the crew will get angry, making it harder to find good crew for future trips.
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