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Re: Hacking my Tesla Model S

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Post by DanielDent »

tajen wrote: post #5

Tesla heavily disappoints me here. This looks like pure PR: - It is a blog with only 1 entry. - The Whois entry is "WhoisGuard Protected" in Panama: http://who.is/whois/www.su-tesla.space . Very bad timing with the #panamapapers. The non-technical depth and the naive writing let me imagine that a junior social media employee could have done it. And I'm disappointed if Tesla hired such people / let an intern write a P…

WhoisGuard is Namecheap's privacy protection service. There is nothing unusual or untoward about not wanting your contact information being used for spear phishing, spam, ... I'm not convinced contact information should be required when registering a domain. Why should it matter who owns the domain?

Re: Hacking my Tesla Model S

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Post by pttrsmrt »

tajen wrote: post #5

Tesla heavily disappoints me here. This looks like pure PR: - It is a blog with only 1 entry. - The Whois entry is "WhoisGuard Protected" in Panama: http://who.is/whois/www.su-tesla.space . Very bad timing with the #panamapapers. The non-technical depth and the naive writing let me imagine that a junior social media employee could have done it. And I'm disappointed if Tesla hired such people / let an intern write a P…

It probably is pure PR. The first poster of the article on HN[0] is hemera — the author of the article, whose account was opened just for the sake of posting that article. (S)he is active in the next post[1], but behaves more like a PR-employee than a hacker having spent two months of research on this stuff.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11440612 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11441113

Re: Hacking my Tesla Model S

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Post by MatmaRex »

bflesch wrote: post #3

If the story holds, I think it is interesting to know more details about why Tesla has chosen Ubuntu server as the underlying OS and nothing else? I can see that ubuntu server has proven itself in a lot of real-world environments, but wouldn't they have to run their own fork of Ubuntu at some point? Or is the distro management toolchain in the Ubuntu world more advanced than for example some bsd or centos? Edit: I am…

That screenshot is labelled "dramatic reenactment", which I believe is just another expression for "fake".

Re: Hacking my Tesla Model S

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Post by sarreph »

tajen wrote: post #7
darklajid wrote: post #4

a) Useless article b) Previously on HN [1]: 12 and 16 [2] hours ago, the first one has some (mostly: 'The article is light on details') discussions. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11441113 2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11440612

Dang, Can we ask for an investigation here? I'd like to know: - Do the IPs of the 3 people who posted the articles match an IP of Tesla Motors? - How did the 3 people discover the articles? - How come they posted different urls, with different titles, to the same article? If my intuition is correct, you might flag the accounts; but even more interesting is you might happen to uncover an deceiving behaviour from Tesla…

As much as I'd love to know if those IPs came from Tesla too, I am very much against asking HN to expose information about users because (unlikely as it is to happen) it would very easily set a precedent for witch-hunting.

Hopefully somebody smart enough will uncover another way to correlate this information back to Tesla.

Re: Hacking my Tesla Model S

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Post by JorgeGT »

tajen wrote: post #5

Tesla heavily disappoints me here. This looks like pure PR: - It is a blog with only 1 entry. - The Whois entry is "WhoisGuard Protected" in Panama: http://who.is/whois/www.su-tesla.space . Very bad timing with the #panamapapers. The non-technical depth and the naive writing let me imagine that a junior social media employee could have done it. And I'm disappointed if Tesla hired such people / let an intern write a P…

From the images this seems a big parking space. Strange that you consider disassembling your car in such a place as a private individual. What if you run into a problem, it gets late and you have to go home? Story is different if this is the parking of your company and the vehicle isn't yours.

Re: Hacking my Tesla Model S

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Post by yq »

I really concerned about ownership of everything today.

Recent events such as Nest from Google, a company can decide to shutdown your device. Cellphones that don't come with root are the trend. Recent games require player to stay online for completely nothing other than DRM purpose. And by the way, how can someone in Tesla just downgrade people's car because he got root?

This is just the beginning of kill switch. Big companies just field testing how tolerate customers are nowadays. Once the new become the norm, you don't know what comes next.

Re: Hacking my Tesla Model S

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Post by cowholio4 »

phreeza wrote: post #9
tajen wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dang, Can we ask for an investigation here? I'd like to know: - Do the IPs of the 3 people who posted the articles match an IP of Tesla Motors? - How did the 3 people discover the articles? - How come they posted different urls, with different titles, to the same article? If my intuition is correct, you might flag the accounts; but even more interesting is you might happen to uncover an deceiving behaviour from Tesla…

Do companies like Tesla have identifiable IP blocks in this day and age?

Yes they do. Although they are not necessarily the only IPs that a company uses.

Tesla's ASN is 394161 and I only see one block of IP's allocated to them 209.133.79.0/24. So that's obviously not enough IPs for the entire company.

Re: Hacking my Tesla Model S

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Post by [deleted] »

phreeza wrote: post #9
tajen wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dang, Can we ask for an investigation here? I'd like to know: - Do the IPs of the 3 people who posted the articles match an IP of Tesla Motors? - How did the 3 people discover the articles? - How come they posted different urls, with different titles, to the same article? If my intuition is correct, you might flag the accounts; but even more interesting is you might happen to uncover an deceiving behaviour from Tesla…

Do companies like Tesla have identifiable IP blocks in this day and age?

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Re: Hacking my Tesla Model S

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Post by scoopr »

bflesch wrote: post #3

If the story holds, I think it is interesting to know more details about why Tesla has chosen Ubuntu server as the underlying OS and nothing else? I can see that ubuntu server has proven itself in a lot of real-world environments, but wouldn't they have to run their own fork of Ubuntu at some point? Or is the distro management toolchain in the Ubuntu world more advanced than for example some bsd or centos? Edit: I am…

> why Tesla has chosen Ubuntu server as the underlying OS and nothing else?

This is speculation, but I believe NVidias reference image, Linux4Tegra, is based on ubuntu.

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