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Sounds like you're internalizing a really complicated situation in your head, bro.
In case people think you're being dismissive to the parent, this was a quote from a popular "drink driving" ad which ran in New Zealand - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtWirGxV7Q8
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Food wise maybe. But do you think your medicine, qualified doctors, medical equipment, internet, computers you use, movies and tv series you watch, trucks you drive and tons of other things besides grow on trees? (Not to mention farming subsidies)
Cities really, truly, do not have a monopoly on the production of those things.
Not many medicine schools, pharma corps, research labs, car manufactures, tech companies, tv and movie studios, etc operating out of rural Idaho, or South Dakota, or Alabama, or what have you...
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There is a big one, called FOX.
ummm... not really. Fox News Network, LLC 1211 Avenue Of The Americas New York, NY 10036
The question was whether there's a network "showing what's important to the middle states".
(Which I interpret as "important related to their views on laws, life, politics, ethics, etc", not as "related to regional news").
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Yeah, but we don't control the media. There is not a national news station showing what's important to the middle states.
There is a big one, called FOX.
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I'm from Atlanta and still live here. You wouldnt know I was from the South because of my accent, I have none. I did kill my accent in grade school when kids made fun of me for saying words different. In my limited experience working with others, southern accent = ignorant bigot has not been something I have seen with my co workers. People usually just shrug it off but I can see why a country accent may be looked dow…
> I did kill my accent in grade school when kids made fun of me for saying words different. Ha ha amazingly I can detect a southern accent even in your writing! ('different' when someone not from the south would say 'differently') Language is amazing isn't it.
I know, because in high school I became friends with a highly educated family who moved into town after having lived all over the world, and made an effort to match their more intelligent sounding speech (which included, among other things, adding -ly to adverbs.)
My mom still occasionally teases me that I say "eye-ther" instead of "eee-ther" (for "either.")
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Back in the middle ages, when the French conquered Britain, the ruling class spoke French and the peasants spoke English. A lot of French words flowed into English as a result. But even today, if people use the words of French origin rather than the old English words, one is regarded as being from the upper class, such as using 'purchase' instead of 'buy'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Frenc.…
> Back in the middle ages, when the French conquered Britain, the ruling class spoke French and the peasants spoke English. This features quite a bit in War and Peace, too. As tensions increase between France and Russia as Napoleon takes over much of Europe and war between the countries looms, you'll find Russian nobility taking Russian language classes, because their first language is French!
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When I moved to New York City after living in Florida and North Carolina, I was really surprised at the blatant bigotry here. I've had people respected in this industry for their open mindedness look at me without irony and ask me if it's really as bad as everyone "down there" calling everyone else ... (looks around nervously) ... the N-word. Todd Barry has a great bit on this (language might be offensive to some) ht…
I had an opposite experience - I moved to Louisiana from a northern state and was shocked at the amount of racism and bigotry openly displayed. While looking in to buying a house I was told but multiple realtors to avoid certain areas because they are "too black." Also I distinctly remember seeing a bumper sticker that deriding mixed race relationships that ended with "don't be a race-mixing slut." Absolutely blew my…
In my experience, there isn't a huge difference in the level of racial bigotry between northern and southern states. The difference lies primarily in the openness of it.
For example, the effects of deed-restricted home sales are still being felt today in many neighborhoods in northern states.
In some ways, the openness of the southern brand of racism is more respectable than the northern brand. While the southern real estate agent was open with you, the northern real estate agent may simply assume you don't want to live in a neighborhood that's "too black," never say so to your face, and proceed to only show you houses in the "nice" part of town.
Yes, it's a contrived example, but it's also something that happens every day all over the country.
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It's remarkable to me how folks who would never, ever be seen to say anything rude about other races (or who would only do so very obliquely) will quite loudly smirk about how much they hate Southerners, how stupid they think Southerners are &c. It's all just class. One can be just as intelligent with a Southern accent as one can be stupid with another.
On the other hand, look at how (politically) "those people" behave in aggregate. It might only be a majority of 51%, but clearly there is a sizable portion of people in the (traditionally somewhat sparsely populated) south / center of the country that have quite different values than the the people living along the crowded coasts. Not saying one group is smarter/dumber, just that the difference in values makes it har…
It's only reasonable to recognize and acknowledge that the South as a whole acts somewhat differently. But it's wrong to talk about all Southerners as if they're the same, or treat all Southerners badly because of it.
It's just like with race. There are real, factual differences between racial groups, and acknowledging this is not a bad thing. What's bad is judging or biasing your interaction with people from those racial groups because of it.
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Well I was pointing out his logical fallacy in assuming I supported someone because of where I was from. That is a ridiculous assumption, so I made an equally ridiculous one, which he immediately understood. Then we got on really well.
It isn't equally ridiculous. 38.6% of Americans state that they would vote for Donald Trump over Hilary Clinton while 49% state that they would vote for Clinton over Trump. There are only several hundred members of the IRA today (out of 1.8 million people in Northern Ireland) and even fewer of them participate in terrorism. And it's not a logical fallacy. The cab driver clearly didn't mean all Americans support Donal…
Then why was he surprised to meet an American who didn't? You're really reaching.
A reddit discussion on bullshitting and class: http://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1h3j08/generatio... with a link to this piece: http://brightgreenscotland.org/index.php/2013/06/my-public-s...