Colleges are full of it: Behind the three-decade scheme to raise tuition
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Re: Colleges are full of it: Behind the three-decade scheme to raise tuition
#2If I were bernie sanders, I'd push for it to be illegal to ask about education status in job interviews (same as family status or sex stuff). This would hamper the signaling value of a college degree and get us back to the value of the skills conferred (if any).
... not that I'm bernie sanders.
Re: Colleges are full of it: Behind the three-decade scheme to raise tuition
#3If I were bernie sanders, I'd push for it to be illegal to ask about education status in job interviews (same as family status or sex stuff). This would hamper the signaling value of a college degree and get us back to the value of the skills conferred (if any). ... not that I'm bernie sanders.
You’re still buying into the myth/propaganda that higher education is only good because it makes someone more employable by providing skills (and/or connections) important for job-seeking.
Wouldn’t you much rather create and live in a world where higher education was free or nearly free, so that your neighbors, fuck it, even those you will never bump into, those on the other side of the country are better educated, better able to reason about the world, more likely to understand evolution and spot marketing and persuasion techniques around them, less likely to believe the blowhard on the radio who is promoting conspiracy theories, and more likely to have gone through a period of rapid personal growth during which they met and grew with people from diverse backgrounds? … without obligating these strangers to a lifetime of bondage to a particular high-paying career?
Re: Colleges are full of it: Behind the three-decade scheme to raise tuition
#4>...maybe it will dawn on Barack Obama, by then retired and relaxing on the beach in Hawaii, that maybe we shouldn’t have thought of education as a market in the first place. Maybe college shouldn’t be about individuals getting rich. Maybe there is another purpose.
Maybe the federal government shouldn't involve itself in private colleges at all? What mandate does the US government have to interfere in college pricing or the existence of an on-campus LGBT center?
College tuition has gone up for three reasons (in order of importance)
1) Griggs v Duke Power
2) The availability of huge amounts of credit to students combined with an easy way to rank colleges, the accept:reject ratio.
3) Government mandates, particularly under Title IX and "dear colleague" letter type nonsense.
Re: Colleges are full of it: Behind the three-decade scheme to raise tuition
#5If I were bernie sanders, I'd push for it to be illegal to ask about education status in job interviews (same as family status or sex stuff). This would hamper the signaling value of a college degree and get us back to the value of the skills conferred (if any). ... not that I'm bernie sanders.
You’re still buying into the myth/propaganda that higher education is only good because it makes someone more employable by providing skills (and/or connections) important for job-seeking. Wouldn’t you much rather create and live in a world where higher education was free or nearly free, so that your neighbors, fuck it, even those you will never bump into, those on the other side of the country are better educated, b…
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Re: Colleges are full of it: Behind the three-decade scheme to raise tuition
#6If I were bernie sanders, I'd push for it to be illegal to ask about education status in job interviews (same as family status or sex stuff). This would hamper the signaling value of a college degree and get us back to the value of the skills conferred (if any). ... not that I'm bernie sanders.
You’re still buying into the myth/propaganda that higher education is only good because it makes someone more employable by providing skills (and/or connections) important for job-seeking. Wouldn’t you much rather create and live in a world where higher education was free or nearly free, so that your neighbors, fuck it, even those you will never bump into, those on the other side of the country are better educated, b…
skills != job skills, necessarily. Everyone likes the scene in good will hunting where the martian puts down the sociology grad student by quoting out library books he memorized. and he gets the girl (how about them apples).
Though yes, employability is a big part of it. The dollar value of a college degree is an ROI calculation.
Re: Colleges are full of it: Behind the three-decade scheme to raise tuition
#7If I were bernie sanders, I'd push for it to be illegal to ask about education status in job interviews (same as family status or sex stuff). This would hamper the signaling value of a college degree and get us back to the value of the skills conferred (if any). ... not that I'm bernie sanders.
You’re still buying into the myth/propaganda that higher education is only good because it makes someone more employable by providing skills (and/or connections) important for job-seeking. Wouldn’t you much rather create and live in a world where higher education was free or nearly free, so that your neighbors, fuck it, even those you will never bump into, those on the other side of the country are better educated, b…
Because the only way someone can be intelligent, is if they wasted 5 years of there of life, not working, but reading old theories and academic papers that don't line up with the reality we actually live in?
I'll rather save 100k and listen to the blowhard on the radio, than be in debt and listen to the blowhard on a podcast.
Re: Colleges are full of it: Behind the three-decade scheme to raise tuition
#8>...maybe it will dawn on Barack Obama, by then retired and relaxing on the beach in Hawaii, that maybe we shouldn’t have thought of education as a market in the first place. Maybe college shouldn’t be about individuals getting rich. Maybe there is another purpose. Maybe the federal government shouldn't involve itself in private colleges at all? What mandate does the US government have to interfere in college pricing…
0) Administration size and budget. Even public university presidents are paid like CEOs.
Re: Colleges are full of it: Behind the three-decade scheme to raise tuition
#9>...maybe it will dawn on Barack Obama, by then retired and relaxing on the beach in Hawaii, that maybe we shouldn’t have thought of education as a market in the first place. Maybe college shouldn’t be about individuals getting rich. Maybe there is another purpose. Maybe the federal government shouldn't involve itself in private colleges at all? What mandate does the US government have to interfere in college pricing…
0) Administration size and budget. Even public university presidents are paid like CEOs.
But that's all an outgrowth of #1. They wouldn't be able to do it if people didn't need to go to college to get a job.
Re: Colleges are full of it: Behind the three-decade scheme to raise tuition
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
0) Administration size and budget. Even public university presidents are paid like CEOs.
But that's all an outgrowth of #1. They wouldn't be able to do it if people didn't need to go to college to get a job.
I read up on the court case, and the ruling was that you couldn’t require people to have (in this case) a high school diploma without it having a defensible relevancy to performing the job.
I do not understand your argument.