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Re: GitLab Pages

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> there are two possibilities. Oh no! > The other possibility is that the system really is tilted in the favor of certain groups, and that has affected the distribution of power and wealth that you see in America today Wrong. There is another possibility, which is that once upon a time the system was severely tilted, and for various complex reasons there is a _massive_ multi-generational delay between leveling the sy…

There is another possibility, which is that once upon a time the system was severely tilted, and for various complex reasons there is a _massive_ multi-generational delay between leveling the system seeing the results of leveling the system. I think most people would agree that many of the effects of inequality are felt on a multigenerational scale, and that solutions will only fully be realized on a similar time fra…

>> What's the functional difference between "living in a system that is severely tilted" and "living in a system that is severely tilted" and "living in a system that has allegedly been repaired, but in practice will remain tilted for a number of generations until this alleged new-found fairness has a chance to propagate through the system?"

The second half of your second quote does not at all reflect the intention behind my statements. When people go around thinking that a 'system' is broken, it is all too easy to be sloppy in one's thinking about what _exactly_ it is that is broken. The definition of the 'system' is easily, dynamically changed to meet the emotional needs or political goals of the thinker or speaker at that moment; and they lose sight of (or intentionally hide) the logical fallacies (or dishonesty) that occur as a result.

My first point is this: At any point in time, manifest inequality of results does NOT logically require that there is necessarily either inequality of ability or, at PRESENT, inequality of treatment by 'the system'. This over simplifies the situation and you presented it as a nice, tight, seemingly irrefutable logical argument from which one _must_ conclude that the system is presently tilted. (Either that, or own the identity of the particularly terrible kind of racist who thinks one race is intrinsically superior to another). This is not just logically wrong onto itself, it forms the foundation for bigoted thinking on a larger scale.

To answer your question, the critical difference lies in developing an accurate understanding of the true nature of the problems. If we walk around thinking "group X has less money then group Y, therefore there MUST be a problem of Xism towards group X which benefits group Y" we are not only being irrational, we are missing out of important opportunities to more effectively improve the condition of the world for all involved.

> Long-term solutions do not preclude the need for short-term action.

I don't see how this really applies, on the face of it. If theoretically there were _no_ racism in the US, it would take generations for blacks and whites to have equal results, for a variety of reasons including the effects of inter-generational poverty and classism. But what types of 'short term' race-related actions might be needed in the hypothetical world in which there is no longer any racism? Reparations?

I mentioned the example of some poverty afflicted white male to emphasize the difficulties that _poor_ people have, not to draw attention to the plight of any white males as a group. I used a white male as an example to really drive the point home about the lingering consequences of generations of racism; the racism of the past has left many of today's black people in poverty, and not even a (presumed advantaged) white male can easily overcome some of the effects of poverty.

> please understand that it does not involve the idea that all things are always easy for all white people.

Who gets to decide the one true meaning of white privilege? I've discussed this topic with hundreds of people, and can confidently say there is a small but still frighteningly large group of people out there who disagree with you.

Re: GitLab Pages

#222

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Racism and discrimination have nothing to do with power. You're redefining the word so that it allows a particular group to engage in discriminatory behavior while avoiding accountability.

The previous speaker, who is definitely involved in an agenda driven redefinition of a word, probably has no conscious desire to engage in discriminatory behavior while avoiding accountability. S/he is almost certainly a well intentioned enabler of those who do wish to engage in discriminatory behavior while avoiding accountability

I'm having difficulty understanding the distinction. Does rewording it make it something it isn't?

Re: GitLab Pages

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Do you have to hand over your private keys for that?

How would you do that without handing over your private keys? Otherwise gitlab couldn't serve your site. Also, as soon as you point an A record of your domain to somebodies server, they're able to get valid certificates through acme (which is probably what they do). If you don't trust somebody, don't point your domain to them.

It's entirely possible that GitLab could integrate Let's Encrypt and generate their own private keys. Some large shared hosting providers already do this (e.g. DreamHost).

Keys are cheap and plentiful, just regenerate & reissue however often you like. The paid CAs I've used do free reissues with new CSRs no problem. You are already trusting them to serve your site so adding a private TLS key isn't a big deal.

The only downside I could think of is if you are using HPKP with a long duration, you could have issues with rapidly changing keys. But I wouldn't expect GitLab Pages to support setting those headers so probably another non-issue.

Re: GitLab Pages

#224

Gitlab is still super slow even compared to young projects like gogs. I know many ppl who shied away for gitlab due to its slowness. If I was them, I would stop all copycat 'me too' features like ci/pages ect and put the resources to making it faster. This is a sign that their features are pritorized by business ppl who want to put features on their slides .

What is the latest version you have tried? We've made a lot of changes to GitLab in the last number of releases that make GitLab a whole lot faster [0], but we recognize that the performance of GitLab.com can still improve quite a bit. For low-memory machines, we do recommend people to use Gogs. [0]: https://about.gitlab.com/2016/02/22/gitlab-8-5-released/

Wow nice improvements, i hadn't noticed this. Gitlab.com seems a lot snappier.

Re: GitLab Pages

#225

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The previous speaker, who is definitely involved in an agenda driven redefinition of a word, probably has no conscious desire to engage in discriminatory behavior while avoiding accountability. S/he is almost certainly a well intentioned enabler of those who do wish to engage in discriminatory behavior while avoiding accountability

I'm having difficulty understanding the distinction. Does rewording it make it something it isn't?

Apologies if I misunderstood, but I think you are asking me to clarify that I'm making a distinction between (a) one person allegedly having dishonest intentions and a conscious motive to do X and (b) that same person having better intentions, and doing X by accident.

The phrasing of the parent was "You are doing A so that B can happen.", which I thought was presumptive and unfair towards the other party.

I've known a lot of people who participate in the subculture of SJWs, and I'm confident that many of them have no conscious desire to be enablers of hatred and bigotry, not even hatred and bigotry towards white males. They simply don't understand the consequences of their beliefs.

Re: GitLab Pages

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How would you do that without handing over your private keys? Otherwise gitlab couldn't serve your site. Also, as soon as you point an A record of your domain to somebodies server, they're able to get valid certificates through acme (which is probably what they do). If you don't trust somebody, don't point your domain to them.

It's entirely possible that GitLab could integrate Let's Encrypt and generate their own private keys. Some large shared hosting providers already do this (e.g. DreamHost). Keys are cheap and plentiful, just regenerate & reissue however often you like. The paid CAs I've used do free reissues with new CSRs no problem. You are already trusting them to serve your site so adding a private TLS key isn't a big deal. The onl…

We are already considering that and given past experience it is a quite simple process: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/14926

GitLab CI Lead

Re: GitLab Pages

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you already made up your mind that [white males] got to where they are unfairly Given the disproportionate amount of power that white males have in America, there are two possibilities. One possibility is that white males really are that superior. We (white males) have the power because we're the best. Conversely, this would also of course imply that other groups like women and minorities are intrinsically inferior.…

Do you have a theory for Jews winning a disproportionate amount of Nobel prizes? Is "the system" rigged in their favour?

Please stop using HN to conduct ideological flamewars. The other comments are bad too but at least they aren't hauling in entirely new barrels of talking-point petrol.

Re: GitLab Pages

#228

Two questions: 1. Does this work with private repos? 2. Are there traffic limits? (use case e.g. when I reach a HN Top 10 ;)

1. Yes, you can use Pages with private projects 2. No, there are no traffic limits.

Very nice!

Suggestion: if you use a CDN or other methods to improve the performance make sure to point it out in the landing page.

Keep up the good job.

Re: GitLab Pages

#229

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Yes, how do you do it? It's gotten to the point where the use of SJW is just shorthand for "I know I'm wrong, I just preferred it when people knew their place"

In my experience, SJW is a term for people who are not actually working to improve the state of affairs of the world in terms of 'social justice', but rather people who have bought into a very specific, irrational, and blatantly hypocritical ideology. This distasteful subculture really exists, and - as with anti-vaxxers, birthers, the chemtrail people, white supremacists and other irrational movements - it poses a fu…

SJW is a pejorative, plain and simple. It means "shut up and stay in your place". In this particular case, the post I was replying to[0] was referring to a post[1] that I'm pretty sure was referring to racism against white people. Take that as you will.

[0]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11431762

[1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11431107

Re: GitLab Pages

#230

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Would love to be able to use my GitHub username on GitLab as well. Currently occupied by a dormant user with zero activity over the last 10 months, no repos except a fork of GitLab CE and no added commits to it. Of course I don't know if he has private repos or not.

We're considering adopting the same policy, see the issue linked above.

That would be amazing.

(I'm not sure why I got downvoted into oblivion. I stated my honest opinion--I haven't signed up for a lot of services where I can't use the username I want.)

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