And all of this, for a product that has net negative nutritional value (and in some compositions, is arguably toxic).
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
Radiophobe here. I can't accept the morality of handing stewardship of spent nuclear fuel to my children and their children for a thousand generations. Would you still want to be caring for a monster left to us by the people who wrote on cave walls? As far as a DGR, I'll believe it when a nation other than Finland has shovels in the ground to actually build one.
1) Breeder reactors are reducing the amount of spent fuel to store about 100x. Existing nuclear waste can also be reprocessed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor#Waste_reductio... 2) What monster could be left by stone-age people to us that modern technology couldn't handle? Modern spent fuel processing methods are great and quite safe (vitrification / underground disposal). I can't imagine a newsworthy wo…
1) Sodium-based breeder reactors are terrifying, and considered by most to be a dangerous failed experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor#Breeder_reacto...
2) As long as we assume that society continues on its current trajectory forever, then yes, there's nothing to worry about. But if it's true that we're in the twilight years of US dominance or relevance as a world power, then we could be in for a significant period of upcoming political/economic turmoil.
So here's another way to look at it: How would the monks and agrarian fiefdoms of the middle ages been at handling a monster leftover by the Romans?
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is absolute quantities mean nothing: water is a resource which depends on production capacity. So long as it is in sustainable excess there are no problems.
This is an interesting issue for young people today. I'm too old, but young people will have "fun" dealing with land west of the Mississippi being in a massive overpopulation bubble, and folks east of the Mississippi having more water than we know what to do with now, and with climate change we're supposed to have even more water leading to some interesting infrastructure problems. For a bit less than 50 years I've h…
I doubt it. Several factors spring to mind that will prevent that specific mass migration:
1) The use of a (small) part of the west's capital to pipe water in from further away
2) Opportunities for multiple orders of magnitude better conservation.
3) Desalination
None of those are as easy as "just wait for rain" but as long as it's cheaper than the entire state of California ($10 trillion?) then it's not a financial hardship compared to "everyone just leave."
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#194"Used".
It's not like the water is converted into pure energy and radiated into space. It is still there - some of it is locked away in the polymers in the packaging, which can be recycled, some of it is used for washing operations and is available for reuse after treatment, some of it is used to water the corn and joins the larger water cycle...
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
We are discovering in California that that rain does not always fall back where the water was taken.
California's discovering that pretty late compared to much of the rest of the world.
Southern india is also taking their time. There is no such thing as a too deep well.
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#196>340 to 620 litres I amused myself trying to find the source. The article is based from a quote from the book which is based on a study: The green, blue and grey water footprint of crops and derived crop products, Twente Water Centre http://waterfootprint.org/media/downloads/Mekonnen-Hoekstra-... I think he is for example counting the rain and irrigation water that falls on the sugar cane that it used to make the Cok…
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#197Re: Dominions of fizz: the carbonated-drinks industry and public health [pdf]
#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
...and replenished from space through slushball comets!
(Almost?) All water on Earth came from a comet, pretty amazing when you think about it.
Extremely. I just can't reconcile the fact that all this water came from multiple comet impacts. It somehow feels wrong.
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
Despite what you might think water is not a particularly limited resource. At the municipal level 1 cent ~= 1,000+ gallons of water but this can vary greatly by location. As a customer in many ways you are paying for pipes not water. PS: California farmers often pay ~70$ on average per acre foot or 325,851 gallons. But, they also get a lot of water for far less than that it's the rare edge cases that are really expen…
I agree with you. But what if you want to drink pure/purified water? You can do for little to no cost in certain conditions, but for city people there are either bottled water or some purifying systems that can be costly and of various levels of efficiency. Then, how much water does one liter of water costs? But then you could argue that people don't need to drink purified water, tap water is good enough, lead levels…
> But then you could argue that people don't need to drink purified water, tap water is good enough, lead levels, chlorine levels (etc) are low enough.
Distilled water will also osmotically drain you, although not at any level you should be worried about. But it's not at all clear that it's "better for you" than water with stuff in it.
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#200>340 to 620 litres I amused myself trying to find the source. The article is based from a quote from the book which is based on a study: The green, blue and grey water footprint of crops and derived crop products, Twente Water Centre http://waterfootprint.org/media/downloads/Mekonnen-Hoekstra-... I think he is for example counting the rain and irrigation water that falls on the sugar cane that it used to make the Cok…
Besides which, that water isn't lost; in the Netherlands, it either sinks into the soil to eventually become ground water again (after which it's reused), or it ends up in the sea via canals and rivers. It's not like we have a water shortage in NL, not yet anyway. Besides ground water, there are several rivers passing through NL coming from the Alps, sometimes to the point of overflowing. Really, the only thing waste…
One way in which water can and does get 'lost' is river depletion. Colorado river doesn't reach the sea anymore, human demand is greater than its flow. Here's an interesting article about it: http://www.outsideonline.com/1928261/day-we-set-colorado-riv...