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Re: Mutt 1.6

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post #18

I'd like to thank mutt's new maintainer, Kevin McCarthy, for pushing mutt 1.6 out the door. It's been a long time coming!

No kidding! 9 years later.. Mutt 1.6.0 was released on April 4, 2016. Mutt 1.4.2.3 was released on June 9, 2007.

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Re: Mutt 1.6

#152
post #9

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> search amazing in gmail. really? until a few months ago, you couldn't find anything besides whole words with textual search on gmail. why do people have it's search at such high standards? how bad was the alternative you had?

I'm not sure what you mean here - I've searched in email for years with gmail - and it's basically always been flawless. Search on From:, To:, Subject, Date, etc... - in addition to searching for content in the body. I'm curious, what other search does one do in email?

The search I have the most trouble with is searching for things that match a label and are in my inbox. GMail will consistently miss messages. I don't know what it is about them, but I imagine it's some indexing bug. I can go to my inbox, click through the first several pages of messages, and see that a message is there, and has my label. I can go to my label, and find it there too. But a search for 'label:foo in:inbox' will come up empty.

Re: Mutt 1.6

#154
post #147

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Imagemagick can't do everything GIMP can do. But everything Imagemagick can do can be scripted . Need to convert 10, or 100, or 1,000, or 1,000,000 images? You might use GIMP for the first. You'd best give it up for the 2nd and further. On Linux desktop, I had an Imagemagick command in my command history which would trim off the top n pixels of images to remove extraneous elements. Quick to call that up and run it on…

"But everything Imagemagick can do can be scripted." So can the Gimp. I wrote a calendar script in Perl for the Gimp literally 15 years ago.

My impression is that scripting Gimp is ... more complicated. That said, I've not tried it.

Imagemagick though makes simple-to-moderately-complex stuff bog easy.

Re: Mutt 1.6

#155

I'll never forget, for the rest of my life, a devastating email scenario that I was one keypress away from executing that would have had serious dire consequences. It was 2003 and I was a dedicated and exclusive Mutt user (this, before Gmail came along). Due to some accidental press of the wrong key combination, somehow Mutt managed to take every single email in my Sent folder and combine it into one gigantic aggrega…

Well, if you do want to send all-your-emails-since-ever to all-your-contacts, I bet it's a lot harder to do in Gmail. Perhaps that's where Mutt shines!

Re: Mutt 1.6

#156
post #111

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Yes, but it'll take the admin to enable those resources. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj657728%28v=exc... "By default, POP3 and IMAP4 are disabled in Microsoft Exchange Server 2013. To support POP3 clients that still rely on these protocols, you need to start two POP3 services: the Microsoft Exchange POP3 service and the Microsoft Exchange POP3 Backend service. To support IMAP4 clients that still rely…

That's terrible; the admins at my job would take a million years to enable the resources. One workaround is to forward all your emails to a IMAP-friendly service such as Fastmail using Exchange rules.

for a lot of companies doing that would be a big no-no security wise

Re: Mutt 1.6

#157
post #3

I use it daily. It's a lovely email client. Close to the Unix ideal of doing one thing, and doing it well. Integration with other utilities (notmuch, isync) for indexing and sync'ing is very easy, thanks to close adherence to Unix principles, and gets you a very neat setup. Nothing to envy from Gmail.

> Close to the Unix ideal of doing one thing, and doing it well. In my opinion this concept does not work for most non-cli programs. How do you actually define this "one thing"? Is "reading an email" one thing? And "writing an email" another thing? What about "spellchecking the email"? What about "managing all my email contacts"? What about "back up my emails"? What about "sign email with GPG"? Do all of these things…

One IMO important thing that's missing from others' replies: It's extremely simple to integrate other programs for processing your mails. Want to be able to import patches sent to you into some git repository? Just write a small shell script that accepts the mail (or some attachment) as input and then create a keyboard shortcut in mutt that pipes the mail (or attachment) to that script, done. You don't need to extend mutt in order to be able to programmatically process your emails, you simply use standard unix mechanisms (a pipe or maybe a file) and call an external program.

Re: Mutt 1.6

#158
post #66
post #33

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I personally always felt that "full applications" were disconnected from the Unix philosophy. By definition, such an application does many things: fetch things from the network, display them, sort them, ... it talks many protocols, concerns itself with many I/O systems. I'm certainly not saying that it is the way to go, but a real Unix philosophy way of dealing with email would be to use a command to pull mails from…

That's what mutt is. You can compile it with support for imap and smtp, and most packaged versions of it are built that way, but the traditional way of using it is just as way of reading and sorting emails. Fetching emails from the server is done by a POP or IMAP agent (I use offlineimap), sending mail is handled by an smtp agent (I use msmtp), composing emails is done with $EDITOR. I don't think that mutt is the mos…

Actually, the traditional way (that still works perfectly fine, actually) is to not "fetch emails" at all. You simply have an SMTP server on your machine and have it either be the MX for your domain or have the MX forward emails for your address(es) to your machine via SMTP, and then have the MTA deliver to the mailbox file or directory that Mutt reads from.

Re: Mutt 1.6

#160

I'll never forget, for the rest of my life, a devastating email scenario that I was one keypress away from executing that would have had serious dire consequences. It was 2003 and I was a dedicated and exclusive Mutt user (this, before Gmail came along). Due to some accidental press of the wrong key combination, somehow Mutt managed to take every single email in my Sent folder and combine it into one gigantic aggrega…

I'd love to know this key sequence. Did it involve a cat?

I guess it would be something like this:

  T.;g
'T' means tag messages matching a given pattern. '.' would be the pattern that matches all messages in the current mailbox. So now all messages are tagged. ';' is the prefix for 'do the next command for every message that is tagged' and 'g' is reply to all.
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