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naner wrote: post #109
scateu wrote: post #107

March 8, 2006 Marissa Mayer prefers Pine to Gmail [mayer]Marissa Mayer, VP, Search Products and User Experience at Google confesses to CNN Money that she doesn't use Gmail for her business mail. "I don't feel overwhelmed with information. I really like it. I use Gmail for my personal e-mail -- 15 to 20 e-mails a day -- but on my work e-mail I get as many as 700 to 800 a day, so I need something really fast. I use an…

10 to 14 hours of email? I think I'd pull a Knuth or look for another job, that's crazy.

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Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by reverend »

SmirkingRevenge wrote: post #113
nextos wrote: post #3

I use it daily. It's a lovely email client. Close to the Unix ideal of doing one thing, and doing it well. Integration with other utilities (notmuch, isync) for indexing and sync'ing is very easy, thanks to close adherence to Unix principles, and gets you a very neat setup. Nothing to envy from Gmail.

I used to be a mutt user back in the day, and it was great at the time, especially when unix/linux lacked anything really better, and there were no iphones or android devices. It was/is the best-in-class console based email client, probably still is. I can't but help feeling though these days it just doesn't really gain you anything substantive to bother to learn it, or even continue to use it, and spend the hours it…

It's about preference and work flow. Myself I use Mutt and configured it extensively to speed up mail processing with macros and short cuts.

So Mutt may not give _you_ anything of value, but to others it may be a huge time saving tool. :)

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by tambourine_man »

tomphoolery wrote: post #82
yoodenvranx wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Close to the Unix ideal of doing one thing, and doing it well. In my opinion this concept does not work for most non-cli programs. How do you actually define this "one thing"? Is "reading an email" one thing? And "writing an email" another thing? What about "spellchecking the email"? What about "managing all my email contacts"? What about "back up my emails"? What about "sign email with GPG"? Do all of these things…

> Is "reading an email" one thing? That's essentially what Mutt does. But you could also use other programs to parse and read each email file if you wish. "Fetching email" can also be a different thing. I use offlineimap for that purpose and store my messages in the Maildir format. > And "writing an email" another thing? Yes. Even "sending an email" is another thing. The program that edits my emails (vim) is not the…

I was curious about your setup. Found this: https://gist.github.com/4540438

But no mention of OS X contacts integration. Care to share how you do it?

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by dredmorbius »

loeg wrote: post #77
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The unix principle works quite well for stuff like grep/find/awk but there is just now way you could make GIMP follow the unix principle. http://www.imagemagick.org/ ;)

ImageMagick is a poor example of "doing one thing right" because every command line tool actually does a million different things with different command line switches. Additionally, it can't do everything GIMP can (which I think you're acknowledging with the winky face).

Imagemagick can't do everything GIMP can do. But everything Imagemagick can do can be scripted.

Need to convert 10, or 100, or 1,000, or 1,000,000 images? You might use GIMP for the first. You'd best give it up for the 2nd and further.

On Linux desktop, I had an Imagemagick command in my command history which would trim off the top n pixels of images to remove extraneous elements. Quick to call that up and run it on a new screenshot, or a series of shots, prior to posting online. The job was completed before GIMP would finish initialising.

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by tremendo »

I've been a Mutt fanboy for long now. Ironically seeing this announcement reminded me to give sup[1] another try. It sounds amazing to me, but when I tried first I had some issue with installation that I hope I can get past now. May be reporting on it later…

[1] http://supmua.org/

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by fintler »

naner wrote: post #109
scateu wrote: post #107

March 8, 2006 Marissa Mayer prefers Pine to Gmail [mayer]Marissa Mayer, VP, Search Products and User Experience at Google confesses to CNN Money that she doesn't use Gmail for her business mail. "I don't feel overwhelmed with information. I really like it. I use Gmail for my personal e-mail -- 15 to 20 e-mails a day -- but on my work e-mail I get as many as 700 to 800 a day, so I need something really fast. I use an…

10 to 14 hours of email? I think I'd pull a Knuth or look for another job, that's crazy.

Her compensation was $117 million over 5 years.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/07/27/adding-up-marissa-may...

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by dublinben »

gh02t wrote: post #89
dfc wrote: post #64

Does anyone use Mutt with SMIME and GPG? Do you like it? I need a mailer with SMIME support for work. I am currently using thunderbird and would love an alternative.

Out of curiosity, what do you do that requires S/MIME? I once set it up, but it seemed nobody else was using it and I gave up.

It's used a lot within large organizations. You'd probably never know, because they tend not to sign messages going outside the organization.

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Post by drauh »

scateu wrote: post #107

March 8, 2006 Marissa Mayer prefers Pine to Gmail [mayer]Marissa Mayer, VP, Search Products and User Experience at Google confesses to CNN Money that she doesn't use Gmail for her business mail. "I don't feel overwhelmed with information. I really like it. I use Gmail for my personal e-mail -- 15 to 20 e-mails a day -- but on my work e-mail I get as many as 700 to 800 a day, so I need something really fast. I use an…

She should have been using (n)mh.

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by drauh »

nextos wrote: post #3

I use it daily. It's a lovely email client. Close to the Unix ideal of doing one thing, and doing it well. Integration with other utilities (notmuch, isync) for indexing and sync'ing is very easy, thanks to close adherence to Unix principles, and gets you a very neat setup. Nothing to envy from Gmail.

(n)mh is the Unix ideal.

Once you are "inside" an app instead of your shell prompt, you are no conforming the Unix ideal.

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by drauh »

lmz wrote: post #95
yoodenvranx wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Close to the Unix ideal of doing one thing, and doing it well. In my opinion this concept does not work for most non-cli programs. How do you actually define this "one thing"? Is "reading an email" one thing? And "writing an email" another thing? What about "spellchecking the email"? What about "managing all my email contacts"? What about "back up my emails"? What about "sign email with GPG"? Do all of these things…

> Is "reading an email" one thing? And "writing an email" another thing? What about "spellchecking the email"? What about "managing all my email contacts"? What about "back up my emails"? What about "sign email with GPG"? > > Do all of these things really need a separate program? There was a suite of programs that worked that way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MH_Message_Handling_System

Yup. I used it for a few years. It also had a Tk-based GUI. Every email message is a single file. "Folders" are directories. So you can use your usual text-processing commandline stuff: grep, sed, awk, etc.

http://rand-mh.sourceforge.net/book/mh/shomes.html#WeOBeYRe

Using MIME or GPG required a little configuration (mostly preset properly) which hooked external programs to preprocess before sending or displaying the message.

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