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Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by AckSyn »

cauthon wrote: post #104

Can Mutt work with an Exchange account?

Yes, but it'll take the admin to enable those resources.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj657728%28v=exc...

"By default, POP3 and IMAP4 are disabled in Microsoft Exchange Server 2013. To support POP3 clients that still rely on these protocols, you need to start two POP3 services: the Microsoft Exchange POP3 service and the Microsoft Exchange POP3 Backend service. To support IMAP4 clients that still rely on these protocols, you need to start two IMAP4 services: the Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service and the Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 Backend service."

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by copperx »

AckSyn wrote: post #111
cauthon wrote: post #104

Can Mutt work with an Exchange account?

Yes, but it'll take the admin to enable those resources. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj657728%28v=exc... "By default, POP3 and IMAP4 are disabled in Microsoft Exchange Server 2013. To support POP3 clients that still rely on these protocols, you need to start two POP3 services: the Microsoft Exchange POP3 service and the Microsoft Exchange POP3 Backend service. To support IMAP4 clients that still rely…

That's terrible; the admins at my job would take a million years to enable the resources.

One workaround is to forward all your emails to a IMAP-friendly service such as Fastmail using Exchange rules.

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by SmirkingRevenge »

nextos wrote: post #3

I use it daily. It's a lovely email client. Close to the Unix ideal of doing one thing, and doing it well. Integration with other utilities (notmuch, isync) for indexing and sync'ing is very easy, thanks to close adherence to Unix principles, and gets you a very neat setup. Nothing to envy from Gmail.

I used to be a mutt user back in the day, and it was great at the time, especially when unix/linux lacked anything really better, and there were no iphones or android devices. It was/is the best-in-class console based email client, probably still is.

I can't but help feeling though these days it just doesn't really gain you anything substantive to bother to learn it, or even continue to use it, and spend the hours it will require to dial in and maintain your configuration.

Most gui clients are good enough.. webmail (Gmail and alternatives) are good enough, unless you have some non-negotiable requirement that mandates you have your own self-hosted email servers, I have a hard time believing its not an overall productivity loss to spend time in mutt (or Gnus for emacs, and other such things).

If you like to tinker with that kind of thing, and you like making your email client a hobby of sorts, cool. But what do you really gain other than a techno-bauble to tinker with?

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by SmirkingRevenge »

jd3 wrote: post #26
nextos wrote: post #3

I use it daily. It's a lovely email client. Close to the Unix ideal of doing one thing, and doing it well. Integration with other utilities (notmuch, isync) for indexing and sync'ing is very easy, thanks to close adherence to Unix principles, and gets you a very neat setup. Nothing to envy from Gmail.

the UNIX philosophy died with the advent of the web imo. The emacs editor/Mozilla suite (SeaMonkey) mentality of doing most things and doing them relatively well is the reality we have inherited.

Like most pop-philosophy, the Unix philosophy is too vague and subject to interpretation to really be a good guide or yardstick for your projects or ideas.

Its a nice little useful heuristic or reminder to ask yourself if maybe what you are doing is too much.

But maybe what you are doing isn't too much.

That's all it should ever be, IMHO... a reminder to check yourself at some point or another - but its perfectly valid to conclude that your monolithic, large app can and does many things well, and cohesively adds something of value to the software world, that can't or hasn't been accomplished by tiny composable bits, or at least not nearly as well.

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by stevekemp »

nickysielicki wrote: post #74
nextos wrote: post #3

I use it daily. It's a lovely email client. Close to the Unix ideal of doing one thing, and doing it well. Integration with other utilities (notmuch, isync) for indexing and sync'ing is very easy, thanks to close adherence to Unix principles, and gets you a very neat setup. Nothing to envy from Gmail.

I wish I could interface NNTP and RSS feeds with Mutt somehow.

You could use rss2email on a cron-job to mail you RSS things - it's not as pretty as a console reader, but it might help?

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by foodstances »

SwellJoe wrote: post #6

It's been many years since I've used mutt, but I'm considering going back to it. For a while, HTML email had become so common that it was uncomfortable to use a text email client, but that trend seems to have reversed...most of my business communication is plain text (maybe a shift in the people I interact with for business). The speed of mutt is damned near impossible to beat, and the bandwidth usage is so tiny (I c…

Most MUAs these days send multipart/alternative messages, so even though most recipients see the fancy HTML version, the message also has a text/plain version that mutt will default to showing and you won't even notice it had an HTML part.

For those rare HTML-only mails, just install lynx and add this to ~/.mailcap:

     text/html; lynx -dump -localhost -force_html -width 80 %s; copiousoutput
This will make mutt pipe the html content to lynx, which will render it and spit back a plaintext version with all the embedded links at the bottom. You'll be able to easily scroll through the message in mutt as though it were plaintext.

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by arcticfox »

scateu wrote: post #107

March 8, 2006 Marissa Mayer prefers Pine to Gmail [mayer]Marissa Mayer, VP, Search Products and User Experience at Google confesses to CNN Money that she doesn't use Gmail for her business mail. "I don't feel overwhelmed with information. I really like it. I use Gmail for my personal e-mail -- 15 to 20 e-mails a day -- but on my work e-mail I get as many as 700 to 800 a day, so I need something really fast. I use an…

People often talk about Mayer as the pinnacle of work ethic, but it often sounds to me like she needs more "work smarter, not harder". 10-14 hours of email once a week sounds like a remarkably bad idea to me.

(Yes, I know she's also phenomenally successful, but so are MANY more people that don't share her methods)

Re: Mutt 1.6

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Post by ciupicri »

izacus wrote: post #65
duskwuff wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All sane residential ISPs block port 25 (SMTP) to prevent spam. All sane mail providers offer SUBMISSION (same protocol as SMTP) on port 587, which is intentionally not blocked by ISPs.

Residental ISPs where? I've yet to see one here in EU O.o

RCS & RDS in Romania [1]. Telekom in Germany [2].

[1]: http://www.rcs-rds.ro/asistenta/protejeaza-ti-calculatorul?t... (in Romanian)

[2]: https://www.telekom.de/hilfe/festnetz-internet-tv/sicherheit... (in German)

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