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Re: OpenBazaar is Open for Business

#11

Post by griffinmb »

brighton36 wrote: post #10
adrusi wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's like a darknet market (Silk Road, AlphaBay, etc) that can't be taken down by law enforcement. Or it's like a clearnet market (Ebay) that doesn't take a cut and works with bitcoin. It looks like it uses multisig as a form of escrow [1], but the third party isn't in any way affiliated with openbazaar, just whoever the vendor and customer can agree to trust. It looks like users have to find a third party on their o…

None of this is true. It's a web browser and server protocol for hosting web sites that can't be crawled by google. It is trivially censored. I have no idea who needs this.

I feel like this is partially correct. OB's peer-to-peer nature gives it the spirit of 'uncensorable,' in that no central authority can keep someone from making whatever listings they want. Though, individually, the shops are certainly censorship-prone since everything is clearnet.

A lot of people seem to think this is Bitcoin's 'killer app', which I don't agree with. I really can't see it pulling many legitimate users from established centralized companies. But I do think it's an interesting piece of work.

Re: OpenBazaar is Open for Business

#15

Post by wyck »

adrusi wrote: post #9
jerguismi wrote: post #3

Can anybody summarize the benefits? Too lazy to install the software myself. As I understand, there is an escrow. Is it trustless/multi-sig based? What about privacy/encryption? Can anybody be an escrow agent?

It's like a darknet market (Silk Road, AlphaBay, etc) that can't be taken down by law enforcement. Or it's like a clearnet market (Ebay) that doesn't take a cut and works with bitcoin. It looks like it uses multisig as a form of escrow [1], but the third party isn't in any way affiliated with openbazaar, just whoever the vendor and customer can agree to trust. It looks like users have to find a third party on their o…

This is wrong, anyone using openbazaar for darknet reasons will be instantly caught because openbazaar does not support TOR or annonymity in any form.

The goal of the developers is simply a marketplace client, which seems misguided.

Re: OpenBazaar is Open for Business

#16

Post by adrusi »

wyck wrote: post #15
adrusi wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's like a darknet market (Silk Road, AlphaBay, etc) that can't be taken down by law enforcement. Or it's like a clearnet market (Ebay) that doesn't take a cut and works with bitcoin. It looks like it uses multisig as a form of escrow [1], but the third party isn't in any way affiliated with openbazaar, just whoever the vendor and customer can agree to trust. It looks like users have to find a third party on their o…

This is wrong, anyone using openbazaar for darknet reasons will be instantly caught because openbazaar does not support TOR or annonymity in any form. The goal of the developers is simply a marketplace client, which seems misguided.

I'm sure you can use the tor http proxy like you can with nearly everything else.

Re: OpenBazaar is Open for Business

#17

Post by wyck »

adrusi wrote: post #16
wyck wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is wrong, anyone using openbazaar for darknet reasons will be instantly caught because openbazaar does not support TOR or annonymity in any form. The goal of the developers is simply a marketplace client, which seems misguided.

I'm sure you can use the tor http proxy like you can with nearly everything else.

Except it works on UDP and not TCP.. TOR does not work on UDP, there are things besides http that exist on the internet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite

Re: OpenBazaar is Open for Business

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Post by adrusi »

wyck wrote: post #17
adrusi wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you can use the tor http proxy like you can with nearly everything else.

Except it works on UDP and not TCP.. TOR does not work on UDP, there are things besides http that exist on the internet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite

Your comment is unnecesarily presumptuous, but regardless...

I don't really understand why OpenBazaar would use UDP, and I can't seem to find any information about it, but it looks like they tell server operators to open up both a TCP and UDP port. I guess they might use it for DHT control messages? Their documentation site is down right now, so that's the best I got.

Re: OpenBazaar is Open for Business

#19

Post by smellf »

adrusi wrote: post #16
wyck wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is wrong, anyone using openbazaar for darknet reasons will be instantly caught because openbazaar does not support TOR or annonymity in any form. The goal of the developers is simply a marketplace client, which seems misguided.

I'm sure you can use the tor http proxy like you can with nearly everything else.

Replying here because the stupid max comment depth was reached on your deeper comment. You said:

> I guess they might use [UDP] for DHT control messages

And IIRC that's exactly what they use UDP for.

The subreddit had a lot of good info last I checked (a few months).

https://www.reddit.com/r/openbazaar

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