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Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by stegosaurus » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 7:01 PM UTC

bduerst wrote: post #197

stegosaurus wrote: post #109

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Lazy language, perhaps. Ultimately, I doubt that every piece of media that is currently on YouTube will be available for as long as I need them. That could be a year, or it could be fifty. For my purposes, if a video gets taken down, it's lost forever, I probably won't be able to find it again. But 'Guinea Pig Noises Loud Squeaking Sounds.mp4' lives on my hard-drive forever. ;) I feel the same way about webpages real…

But if you didn't contribute to the cost of making those guinea pig noises, however small they may seem, you don't have the right to that access that content infinitely.

If you are interested in my views on copyright infringement, you might find this comment useful (commenting on ad blockers).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11422763

It probably makes sense for me to formulate the argument properly and write it up at some point.

In this particular instance - I'm not sure that the amount paid is relevant - the desires of the publishers would be, which doesn't necessarily include payment (otherwise no-one would publish under GPL). It's potentially a violation of the ToS of YouTube - I wouldn't know, I use a commandline tool which bypasses the web interface entirely.

Sorry Google! I'm sure you'll do OK. (Do you have a donation address? :P)

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by nostrebored » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 7:05 PM UTC

deepnet wrote: post #187

nostrebored wrote: post #174

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"For enjoying art?" Enjoying art is not why they've been fined, pirating it is. There's a meaningful distinction there. You're not entitled to anyone's work, and it's not a necessary part of being a functional and happy human being.

Shared culture is what society is. My argument is there is no need for any of this - it is a legal error. Simply legislate a compulsory license, media and device taxes already exist. Distribution agencies - already in place for radio and libraries. The correct test for disruptive technology is substantial non-infringing use. This war on fans is as unnecessary and ineffective as the drug war - calling it "bucaneering"…

You're conflating what I'm saying with approval of the actions of the RIAA et al... I'm saying stealing is morally wrong. Feel free to start there.

There are plenty of things to share culturally that don't involve theft. Feel free to visit a library and likely walk away with more personal growth anyway.

>"Criminalising what everyone is doing and feels is natural and right is a fail"

You can't honestly believe this. This is empirically ridiculous.

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by mbrock » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 7:16 PM UTC

staticelf wrote: post #137

icebraining wrote: post #78

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Sorry, I wasn't clear: I'm a pirate as well. I was just commenting on how these threads always seem to go through the same motions, and nothing is accomplished, because everyone has already heard the arguments against their position and has found them unconvincing.

Well yeah, but that could be said for every political discussion, yet I see a value in keeping the discussion alive.

There's an interesting part in Alasdair MacIntyre's book "After Virtue" on the "interminable nature of contemporary moral discussions."

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by LiquidFlux » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 7:23 PM UTC

jdc0589 wrote: post #148

TheArcane wrote: post #124

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How do I install it without the project being registered in npm?

Not totally sure what you mean, but you want to install it yourself just clone the repo, `npm install` to get all the dependencies. then, do one of: 1. run `npm link`, which will put pirateflix in your path 2. make src/cli.js executable and run it directly 3. don't make src/cli.js executable, and run it with `node src/cli.js`

For context, the fork linked above references being able to install it using 'npm install pirateflix -g', which does not function due to pirateflix apparently not being registered.

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by nacs » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 8:04 PM UTC

dkopi wrote: post #83

Karlozkiller wrote: post #80

Soon after this got on HN, the source seems to have been taken down? I 404 both on Github and npm.

This fork is still available: https://github.com/orinocoz/pirateflix

Slightly newer fork here (not mine):

https://github.com/akash0x53/pirateflix

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by bduerst » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 8:20 PM UTC

stegosaurus wrote: post #201

bduerst wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if you didn't contribute to the cost of making those guinea pig noises, however small they may seem, you don't have the right to that access that content infinitely.

If you are interested in my views on copyright infringement, you might find this comment useful (commenting on ad blockers). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11422763 It probably makes sense for me to formulate the argument properly and write it up at some point. In this particular instance - I'm not sure that the amount paid is relevant - the desires of the publishers would be, which doesn't necessarily include…

I'm not sure how your view on ad blocking is entitling you to infinite media consumption of IP you didn't contribute to. Advertisers didn't make these hypothetical guinea pig sounds you like, I'm assuming.

And my views personally represent my own, not an organization, which is why I don't hide behind a dinosaur name :)

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by jameslk » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 9:13 PM UTC

brian-armstrong wrote: post #185

jameslk wrote: post #176

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If I was still writing desktop software, I would have no problem with my software being pirated. I'd make it difficult enough for it not be worth the effort for anyone who can afford it, but I know that there's plenty of others who might not be able to afford my software, who are willing to spend the time instead cracking the software. Some kid out there might be building a future career on cracked versions of my sof…

Although it's nice to hear that you would be ok with the reciprocal in this case, you can't make that decision for everyone. Personally, if I sold consumer desktop software, I'd be disappointed in people who chose to pirate. Buying movies and music electronically now is far easier than it has ever been. I don't think that's really a valid excuse, but even still, you'd be blaming the industry for a crime you're commit…

I didn't say it's just. Copyright infringement is copyright infringement. People will do unjustified things when they want to and making something difficult to attain is one of the things that leads to piracy[0].

It's like a river: it will take the path of least resistance. I choose to accept that this is inevitable and try to find solutions to control the river by paving paths for it to take, instead of blaming it for doing what it does.

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement#Motivat...

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by jameslk » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 9:20 PM UTC

bduerst wrote: post #190

jameslk wrote: post #176

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If I was still writing desktop software, I would have no problem with my software being pirated. I'd make it difficult enough for it not be worth the effort for anyone who can afford it, but I know that there's plenty of others who might not be able to afford my software, who are willing to spend the time instead cracking the software. Some kid out there might be building a future career on cracked versions of my sof…

>They made it difficult to buy their products and a lot easier to pirate. And now they're the ones paying for it. Historically, yes, but this has changed, hasn't it? You can typically purchase or rent a major movie through a variety of streaming-capable channels and mediums. I just rented Room on Google play and streamed to my TV over the weekend. If I bought it, I could download it to my devices for offline viewing.

Yes the industry has started to catch up, but they're still playing games that keeps piracy relevant.

For example, unless I'm not aware, movies that are still in theater or shortly after still are unavailable to stream. Yet they're usually available on torrent sites. Another example is content filtering by region.

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by stegosaurus » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 9:31 PM UTC

bduerst wrote: post #206

stegosaurus wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are interested in my views on copyright infringement, you might find this comment useful (commenting on ad blockers). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11422763 It probably makes sense for me to formulate the argument properly and write it up at some point. In this particular instance - I'm not sure that the amount paid is relevant - the desires of the publishers would be, which doesn't necessarily include…

I'm not sure how your view on ad blocking is entitling you to infinite media consumption of IP you didn't contribute to. Advertisers didn't make these hypothetical guinea pig sounds you like, I'm assuming. And my views personally represent my own, not an organization, which is why I don't hide behind a dinosaur name :)

Sorry, it's the best I can do for now.

We'll have to agree to disagree. :)

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by belorn » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 10:30 PM UTC

bduerst wrote: post #190

jameslk wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I was still writing desktop software, I would have no problem with my software being pirated. I'd make it difficult enough for it not be worth the effort for anyone who can afford it, but I know that there's plenty of others who might not be able to afford my software, who are willing to spend the time instead cracking the software. Some kid out there might be building a future career on cracked versions of my sof…

>They made it difficult to buy their products and a lot easier to pirate. And now they're the ones paying for it. Historically, yes, but this has changed, hasn't it? You can typically purchase or rent a major movie through a variety of streaming-capable channels and mediums. I just rented Room on Google play and streamed to my TV over the weekend. If I bought it, I could download it to my devices for offline viewing.

If you live in the US, then some of the channels are getting close to be more convenient than go to a website designed in early 2000, figure out which link has the content, download a program that handle BitTorrent protocol, install it, wait for the content to download, figure out how to make a player play it, and then watch it.

If you don't live in the US, the typical case is instead to go to the store and look in the bin and hope to find something from two years ago, or go to the cinema and chose one of the 10 shows available this month. The streaming services has something like 1/10 of the lists available in the US, if they offer anything at all.