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Tesla Intrigue Deepens with Musk's Twitter Barrage

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I'm quite sure that Musk is the one responsible for the increase in value of his companies, not someone who's been uninvolved in running them.

I am able to concentrate on growing my career because of my spouse, not in spite of them.

That's not the case for everyone.

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Or just, you know, keep your distance. Although it is sometimes quite hard, my father was once going on a German Autobahn 180kmh and he didn't realize that in the front people completely stopped. My mom realized and shouted and he hit the breaks and stopped in-between cars (if there weren't enough space inbetween, he would have mildly hit the cars). But I don't think this system would have helped in this situation

Just keeping good distance isn't guaranteed to save you from other drivers. See e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X-5fKzmy38

Well keeping the distance certainly helps ... but not in all situations.

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my only head scratch on the design is the giant tablet attached to a thin pole on the dash i live in sf, where a book on your passenger seat will get you a broken window and lose you a book the tablet looks like it is going to inadvertantly encourage broken windows and is inevitably going to be ripped out of the dash here's to hoping it retracts to under the dash when off

It's an unfinished cabin design. I doubt they're going to leave a monitor sitting in that spot as the end look. Most likely it'll be mounted flush into the dash in some manner.

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Since you don't push your shopping cart by turning the wheels, those intuitions are probably not that helpful. The force you exert on the handle of a shopping cart is not automatically aligned with the direction the cart is facing, meaning it's unstable - any deviation from a direct push generates a turning torque. But the rear wheels of a car are fixed so they will always generate a forward force aligned with the ca…

Not true. I've always driven RWD and have competed in National Amateur racing events with the SCCA (and taught high performance driving techniques at my local club). I setup my cars with a heafty amount of rear toe-in (1/4"). When the weight transfers left/right or one of the rear wheels hits a bump/hole it will push the car in one direction similar to torquing one side of a shopping cart with your hand. A RWD setup…

So, on the subject of whether rear wheel drive electric cars will have trouble in snow, we've now heard from both a shopping cart driver and a performance racing instructor who configures cars to deliberately amplify rear axle steering effects under cornering. I can't help but think that the reality of driving a Tesla Model 3 in traffic in light snow might be somewhat different to both of those experiences.

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I think the whole point of Tesla is to be an excellent car company. "Electric" and "self-driving" just happen to be two attributes of an excellent car company at this particular point in history.

I would strongly disagree. Tesla was never really about being a car company.

Musk has said before that he wants people to buy a Tesla not because it is an electric car but because it is a really good car. He will keep adding features to it that make it an excellent car.

Tesla may pivot to other products but not IMO to selling self driving kits. In any case, I believe mobileye does the bulk of the computer vision stuff anyway.

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To be fair, auto-braking isn't useful until you need it, and by that point you're about a half second away from smashing into another car so you don't have much time to think about it. That feature alone could reduce total crashes by 10% [1] [1] http://www.autonews.com/article/20160128/OEM06/160129871/aut...

Or just, you know, keep your distance. Although it is sometimes quite hard, my father was once going on a German Autobahn 180kmh and he didn't realize that in the front people completely stopped. My mom realized and shouted and he hit the breaks and stopped in-between cars (if there weren't enough space inbetween, he would have mildly hit the cars). But I don't think this system would have helped in this situation

Why don't you think it would have helped? That's the exact situations these systems are designed for...

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>auto-braking, lane keep assist, automatic cruise control, and similar I bought a mazda cx recently with all of these feature. I must say I don't find any of these really useful, but again I don't text while driving. I think these features breed a false sense of security and encourage users to text while driving. Features like these should be introduced only when they can protect users from all cases of distracted dr…

To be fair, auto-braking isn't useful until you need it, and by that point you're about a half second away from smashing into another car so you don't have much time to think about it. That feature alone could reduce total crashes by 10% [1] [1] http://www.autonews.com/article/20160128/OEM06/160129871/aut...

>That feature alone could reduce total crashes by 10% [1]

Well, ofcourse. I am talking about ppl become less safety conscious because these features give them (false) sense of security.

eg: Anti-Tsunami walls killed more people than they saved during great japanese tsunami because they gave people false sense of security and ppl didn't take evacuation warnings seriously assuming walls would take care of it. And ofcourse studies proved that having Tsunami walls is safer than no walls.

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Tesla could have done a better job communicating that the internal look or feel wasn't finalised. Clearly that didn't impact pre-orders but I think a lot of people didn't love the internal look even if they thought it was nice looking externally (disclaimer: I was one of these people). In my OPINION the 3 won't be fully self driving (for certification/legal reasons). But we can reasonably speculate that it will have…

>auto-braking, lane keep assist, automatic cruise control, and similar I bought a mazda cx recently with all of these feature. I must say I don't find any of these really useful, but again I don't text while driving. I think these features breed a false sense of security and encourage users to text while driving. Features like these should be introduced only when they can protect users from all cases of distracted dr…

They come in handy on those 5-10hr road trips. you don't realize how tiring driving can be until you're driving one for that long.

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Musk said on Twitter that Autopilot convenience features would not be included in the base model, "same as S and X." So it doesn't seem like they would be basing the interior design on an optional feature.

He says in the reveal presentation that Autopilot hardware will come standard on the 3.

Yes, and it will have standard safety features like automatic braking that use that hardware. But what does that have to do with whether or not the Model 3 design is based around fully autonomous driving?

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Can someone clarify for me- will the existing Model S have any features NOT present in the vastly cheaper Model 3?

Speed (acceleration). Current Model S 0-6 times are from 5.2s to 2.8s, depending on trim. The Model 3 is “under six seconds” and maybe “substantially faster”: it could overlap the slower current Model S trims.

Range. Current Model S ranges are from 240m to 270m, depending on trim. Model 3: 215m.

Cargo volume. The Model S has 31.6 ft^3. The Model 3 looks much smaller.

Free lifetime use of superchargers? I haven't seen this speculated, but I'll be surprised if the Model 3 includes unlimited supercharger use; I suspect paid use of the network will be a new Tesla revenue stream.

On the other hand, smaller makes for easier parking and maneuvering, in addition to the cost savings. And I expect the Model 3 to have more and better sensors, in support of better autonomous driving, than the current Model S can support.

All said, IMO the major advantage of the existing Model S is that it exists today. Owners are paying a huge premium to get semi-autonomous driving a couple of years ahead of schedule. “The future is already here — it's just not very evenly distributed.” – William Gibson

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