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Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by teach »

deepnet wrote: post #93
caractacus wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hundreds of thousands destroyed ? I think you will have to back that up with some evidence.

The evidence is trivially googleable in every country and language. Most commonly it is lost internet access or fines of only a few thousands. A few thousand is beyond a lot of people, especially in this endless recession. It can be confiscation of equipment and has led to loss of employment. People have been jailed for it, faced years of uncertainty over extradition. Parents, children, teachers, grandmothers, pretty…

You have a lot of assertions here but not many references.

I would love to read a blog post that went into detail about all the claims you've made here.

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by digler999 »

cbeach wrote: post #15

Dislike this kind of story appearing in HN. We're all well educated people with high earning potential who should be capable of buying movies, not using our talent to rip them off. I'd hate to see HN develop a bad reputation because of stuff like this.

Thats because all the "DO NOT PIRATE" messages are reserved for the paying customers.

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by wfo »

brian-armstrong wrote: post #159
digler999 wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if "Movie staff and music artists" feel like they aren't being paid enough, they should lobby the industry and demand more money . Recording artists earn less than 10% of album sales. The industry pays $20 million to have Johnny Moviestar in their movie. But somehow there's not enough for "movie staff" ? That's not a problem attributable to piracy.

But this still doesn't justify violating copyright. Think about how you feel when someone violates GPL. How is this any different?

To be honest, I'm not sure that most software developers care much if a student, for example, downloads software and tinkers with it for personal use 'breaking copyright'. In fact many large software companies encourage piracy so that when these kids grow up to work at a company, they'll demand the tools they know already from past piracy.

There's a huge difference between making money off a business model which is based around breaking copyright and breaking it for personal use. Most software folks don't care at all about the second, which is what the article is about, which is why your comments are unconvincing.

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by brian-armstrong »

wfo wrote: post #163
brian-armstrong wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But this still doesn't justify violating copyright. Think about how you feel when someone violates GPL. How is this any different?

To be honest, I'm not sure that most software developers care much if a student, for example, downloads software and tinkers with it for personal use 'breaking copyright'. In fact many large software companies encourage piracy so that when these kids grow up to work at a company, they'll demand the tools they know already from past piracy. There's a huge difference between making money off a business model which is b…

There is no business usecase for movies and music (with some small exceptions for ads, but nothing like enterprise software). So, by your criteria, they just shouldn't receive copyright protection because their product targets consumers? How does that make any sense?

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by marklawrutgers »

a_small_island wrote: post #143

Hoping someone will help. I'm not an engineer, but I'd like to learn a few things. How would I set this up? Not really that interested in streaming torrents but it looks fairly simple so I figure with a nudge I could figure it out on my own.

I'm not sure about the original link since it 404'd before I could look at it but if it's like the other fork up on here it seems it uses the node package manager. So a simple method would be to install nodejs: https://nodejs.org/en/

This installs npm (node package manager) for you.

Open up any Command prompt or Terminal depends on the OS you're running and I'm sure there are lots of alternatives these are usually just the default installed on every machine.

Run the install command which looks something like "npm install pirateflix -g"

The -g means it installs globally on the machine so you can access it in any directory instead of just one specific folder or location.

Once that's done you can just start off each command with "pirateflix" or "pirateflix --help" to get details of the function. It's documented on the github under Usage and Options. Should be straight forward from here. Hardest part is probably just knowing what npm is.

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by maldusiecle »

deepnet wrote: post #32
MoSal wrote: post #9

I'm deeply concerned about popularizing torrent streaming. A few leechers breaking "rarest-first" might not cause much harm. But if most leechers become streamers, torrents will lose their efficiency in distributing less-popular content. Transmission implemented a "streaming" feature once, that didn't actually stream. It just stopped fetching pieces "with the same rarity" randomly. They still got too much heat for ad…

Unfortunately in many juristictions seeding is copyright infringement and leeching is not. Seeding by default sadly gets a lot of newbs into trouble - especially as publicising IP addresses are part of the protocol. Porn blackmail companies and MPAA agents know that seeders are low hanging fruit. Similarly Limewire and ilk using the downloads folder as a default share folder is useful for the health of the network bu…

Where are you getting 30 million from? Her initial fine was $220k, a later appeal upped it to 1.2 mil, then back to $54k, and the final ruling was $220k. (Source: wikipedia.)

Which is still a crazy result, but it helps no one to make up numbers that are several orders of magnitude higher than the real ones.

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by mikegerwitz »

jychang wrote: post #129
mikegerwitz wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Streaming in general (apart from via a local server) frustrates me. The entire idea is simply a way of relinquishing control to an external body. Not said enough; thank you. There was outrage (rightfully so) over DRM on videos and music, because it handcuffed the user, and it prevented legitimate and legal activities like moving music to a new device. The streaming situation is far more restrictive, but nobody seem…

This comment is irrelevant to the topic at hand. Not only is this app (or any other torrent streaming app, including uTorrent and qBittorrent and PopcornTime) not have any DRM, you can use the fully downloaded file after you stream it. [1] For non-torrent sources, streaming is not tied to DRM either. Most youtube videos are not flash based, but streamed MP4 files that aren't DRM'd in any way; you can get the MP4 file…

It's relevant in the sense that I'm stating that streaming makes the users worse off than DRM; the reason for the comparison wasn't clear.

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by soundwave106 »

AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #150
Aleman360 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Creators should get paid, yes, but that does not warrant the current farce in any way whatsoever. That's a huge issue that you're just sweeping under the rug. Behind all creative material is someone's time, which is the most valuable thing any of us have.

The 'current farce' is really only benefiting the licensing agencies and content publishing corporations - not the creatives.

While I agree that IP (patents and copyrights) are currently a farce, many creatives do make a living using IP frameworks as a backbone. And I think many of these creators view the current farce as better than nothing at all.

Regardless of accuracy, just look at how many creatives are apt to blame piracy for the various media industry declines.

So yes, the question of how a creative type can make a living without an IP framework is huge in these sorts of discussions.

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by deepnet »

maldusiecle wrote: post #166
deepnet wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately in many juristictions seeding is copyright infringement and leeching is not. Seeding by default sadly gets a lot of newbs into trouble - especially as publicising IP addresses are part of the protocol. Porn blackmail companies and MPAA agents know that seeders are low hanging fruit. Similarly Limewire and ilk using the downloads folder as a default share folder is useful for the health of the network bu…

Where are you getting 30 million from? Her initial fine was $220k, a later appeal upped it to 1.2 mil, then back to $54k, and the final ruling was $220k. (Source: wikipedia.) Which is still a crazy result, but it helps no one to make up numbers that are several orders of magnitude higher than the real ones.

Yes of course, thanks for the correction - I'd edit but the hour is up - going back over the case, enraging injustice.

The sum you mention was the 1st amount, on appeal this was raised to $1,920,000, then lowered to $54,000, appealed again to $1,500,000, then appealed to $54,000, appealed finally in 2013 to $220,000.

She denied ever using Kazaa and no such files were recovered from her hard drive.

Conviction was on IP address alone from MediaSentry.

* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Records,_Inc._v._Tho...

Over six years in court, mess your life up some, threats began in 2005, so 8 years of harrasment over 24 songs.

IMHO the many years she was dragged through the courts already more than sufficient.

Flippin bonkers.

Re: Stream PirateBay movies directly from CLI

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Post by stegosaurus »

mikegerwitz wrote: post #167
jychang wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is irrelevant to the topic at hand. Not only is this app (or any other torrent streaming app, including uTorrent and qBittorrent and PopcornTime) not have any DRM, you can use the fully downloaded file after you stream it. [1] For non-torrent sources, streaming is not tied to DRM either. Most youtube videos are not flash based, but streamed MP4 files that aren't DRM'd in any way; you can get the MP4 file…

It's relevant in the sense that I'm stating that streaming makes the users worse off than DRM; the reason for the comparison wasn't clear.

Well, the streaming is combined with DRM that makes obtaining the stream difficult.

Unprotected streams are not an issue.

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