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Dokan – User Mode File Systems on Windows

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Re: Dokan – User Mode File Systems on Windows

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Then explain why people use OS X? Seriously the worst file system that so many developers (And I am guessing a HIGH percentage of Linux developers use) I can't stand going to Linux conferences and the Macs come out and are running OS X.

Could you elaborate please?

http://www.cio.com/article/2868393/linus-torvalds-apples-hfs...

HFS is the worst file system and it has effected me several times and I avoid Macs and OS X like the plague.

Re: Dokan – User Mode File Systems on Windows

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Could you elaborate please?

http://www.cio.com/article/2868393/linus-torvalds-apples-hfs... HFS is the worst file system and it has effected me several times and I avoid Macs and OS X like the plague.

Your experience could be fact, but in about 10 years of using MacBooks for work, it has effected me about 2 times, yet I had way more issues with sound/graphics/sleep/projection/skype/internationalization on the Linux distros I have tried. I don't mean to start a flame war, but there is probably a reason you see MacBooks at linux conferences, and FS bugs are not a huge factor.

Re: Dokan – User Mode File Systems on Windows

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http://www.cio.com/article/2868393/linus-torvalds-apples-hfs... HFS is the worst file system and it has effected me several times and I avoid Macs and OS X like the plague.

Your experience could be fact, but in about 10 years of using MacBooks for work, it has effected me about 2 times, yet I had way more issues with sound/graphics/sleep/projection/skype/internationalization on the Linux distros I have tried. I don't mean to start a flame war, but there is probably a reason you see MacBooks at linux conferences, and FS bugs are not a huge factor.

> sound/graphics/sleep/projection/skype/internationalization on the Linux distros

Paper Cuts

HFS+ problems are a disaster. I lost 2 10 hour days of video edits and work and my backup were also garbage.

> FS bugs are not a huge factor

You know you are not seeing things clearly when you say statements like that.

Re: Dokan – User Mode File Systems on Windows

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Could you elaborate please?

I assume the OP strongly dislike HFS. I don't know enough about it myself, but I have relatively low standards for my dev machine - HFS has never failed me.

I pray that stays true for you. BUT please look on making sure your backup system is flawless AKA not Time Machine.

Re: Dokan – User Mode File Systems on Windows

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Your experience could be fact, but in about 10 years of using MacBooks for work, it has effected me about 2 times, yet I had way more issues with sound/graphics/sleep/projection/skype/internationalization on the Linux distros I have tried. I don't mean to start a flame war, but there is probably a reason you see MacBooks at linux conferences, and FS bugs are not a huge factor.

> sound/graphics/sleep/projection/skype/internationalization on the Linux distros Paper Cuts HFS+ problems are a disaster. I lost 2 10 hour days of video edits and work and my backup were also garbage. > FS bugs are not a huge factor You know you are not seeing things clearly when you say statements like that.

> Paper Cuts

Those things preventing the system from being usable one way, or another. So, for my experience, worse than paper cuts. Not to mention there is a great idiom about death by paper cuts.

> HFS+ problems are a disaster. I lost 2 10 hour days of video edits and work and my backup were also garbage.

I haven't. No one else I know has. You're missing my point that this is anecdotal data. It's not a disaster if it's not impacting enough users.

> You know you are not seeing things clearly when you say statements like that.

You know you are not seeing things clearly when you think you know how clearly someone is seeing things. I know, for example, not to store Cyrillic music names on my MBP after I hit a bug. I have also read how bad HDF+ is, legacy wise. However, that's one factor of usability, among many. I've lost more raids than hfs+ files. Every filesystem has bugs, whether it's a huge factor or not is whether enough people encounter them or not.

Re: Dokan – User Mode File Systems on Windows

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No, because Linux had libfuse ages ago.

libfuse: 2001 Dokan: 2007 We are in 2016...do you still still try to understand which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Windows has other user space file systems, and has for a long time. OpenAFS goes all the way back to 2000, and had a windows 95 client even[0].

Comparing libfuse to Dokan is like comparing fat16 to HAMMER. It's recent, but not the first by any stretch

https://github.com/openafs/openafs/tree/ba3d4666cbd19b56bcec...

Re: Dokan – User Mode File Systems on Windows

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> sound/graphics/sleep/projection/skype/internationalization on the Linux distros Paper Cuts HFS+ problems are a disaster. I lost 2 10 hour days of video edits and work and my backup were also garbage. > FS bugs are not a huge factor You know you are not seeing things clearly when you say statements like that.

> Paper Cuts Those things preventing the system from being usable one way, or another. So, for my experience, worse than paper cuts. Not to mention there is a great idiom about death by paper cuts. > HFS+ problems are a disaster. I lost 2 10 hour days of video edits and work and my backup were also garbage. I haven't. No one else I know has. You're missing my point that this is anecdotal data. It's not a disaster if…

Just do a little research on HFS+ issues. It is not a small problem. This was one of the reasons why the OS X server was killed.

Some limitations that really do have a major impact on people: (Features Missing)

    data checksums


    nanosecond timestamps


    concurrent access (let more than one process at the time access the filesystem)


    checksumming


    snapshotting


    longer time frame (February 6 2040 for HFS+)


    sparse file support


    real hard links

Re: Dokan – User Mode File Systems on Windows

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> Paper Cuts Those things preventing the system from being usable one way, or another. So, for my experience, worse than paper cuts. Not to mention there is a great idiom about death by paper cuts. > HFS+ problems are a disaster. I lost 2 10 hour days of video edits and work and my backup were also garbage. I haven't. No one else I know has. You're missing my point that this is anecdotal data. It's not a disaster if…

Just do a little research on HFS+ issues. It is not a small problem. This was one of the reasons why the OS X server was killed. Some limitations that really do have a major impact on people: (Features Missing) data checksums nanosecond timestamps concurrent access (let more than one process at the time access the filesystem) checksumming snapshotting longer time frame (February 6 2040 for HFS+) sparse file support r…

Fortunately, the impact is not major enough to prevent me from being a happy MBP user.
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