Is there any good analysis on the impact of EV on the gas and oil demand on the world?
??% of Ca, US cars are EV, as results, ??% of Ca, US gas/oil consumptions are reduced. If the trend continue, here's what happen when % of EV reach 10, 20, 30, 50%, the global oil demand will be drop by ??,??,?? %.Tesla Intrigue Deepens with Musk's Twitter Barrage
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? What specifically is hard about narrow streets? That actually sounds like the kind of thing a self driving car could excel at. The bigger problem, is imagine, would be weather. I dunno how completely they've solved that problem yet.
One of many examples would be a single lane street which goes up a hill and around the corner. Although there is only space for one car you can drive both directions. Rather often than not you have two cars meeting in the middle and then one car has to drive back to let the other car pass. This is pretty difficult to do as a human and I am not sure how an autonomous car would do that.
The same way it goes forward?
2 autonomous cars could negotiate which has the shorter trip, an autonomous car encountering a human could default to timidity.
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#63Unveil part 2 is "super next-level". And the "steering controls and system feels like a spaceship" And Musk tweeted a little while ago about getting a special team of Software Engineers reporting directly to him for self-driving that was "top priority" within the company. And there are no gauges directly in front of the driver at all, which has been confirmed to be like that for production. At this point, can it be a…
> At this point, can it be anything other than full autonomous? There is no way that autonomous driving is going to work in most small European town and villages. There are so many downtowns which were never meant to be used by car and it is already difficult to navigate those places as a human. I just don't see how this should work over here in Europe. Selfdriving on the highway or in a typical suburban sprawl in th…
> and it is already difficult to navigate those places
> as a human
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#64> The Model 3 will come with standard rear-wheel drive, with an option for dual-motor all-wheel drive. It better be fully autonomous if you've ever seen how rear-wheel drive performs in a north-eastern snowstorm. Sure, there's a lot of weight over the back wheels but that sounds crazy to me as the default.
Eh, you may be defeating your own argument there. The main reason that front-wheel drive is better in slick conditions is more weight over the wheels in the typical front engined car. Rear wheel drive may actually be better if the battery pack is sitting on top of it.
That depends, RWD is harder to control even if the weight is on the back. Understeer is much safer than oversteer, unless you're a talented driver who knows what they're doing, and oversteer is way more likely in a RWD car.
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#65I'm hoping we'll indeed see some tweaks to the nose -- it looks like a blank waiting for a cut-out to fit a grill and will leave the car feeling nearly-finished if it stays that way for production. Only bit that wasn't really a home run for me (for a pre-production, anyways). But otherwise... shooting for autonomous-first at launch will be interesting indeed. How would that effect the opinions of the folks now on the…
Agreed, the nose design bothers me. Looks unfinished.
A thing to note on looks: there will be a number plate to complete the looks. And remember there are at least US and European versions of that to consider in the design.
This is entirely subject to personal taste, but
Alfa Romeos' (e.g. 147) fronts look nice in PR, but look hideous with a number plate attached literally "wherever there is some space for it".
New Audis suffer from similar problem: even though the number plate does not look hideous it still looks sort of out of place on the asphalt reaching grilles.
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#66So I watched the Model 3 unveil. I found it to be pretty awful. I had seen Musk unveil the battery swap, and felt that he looked way more polished than he did in the Model 3 unveil. The reveal kind of stressed me out the way he was stammering over the words. It seemed as though he had either not practiced the script, not written one, or had a bout of stage fright. He really didnt "sell" the car. Just said yes its goi…
Agreed. As an aside, the popped blazer lapels were cringeworthy.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
> At this point, can it be anything other than full autonomous? There is no way that autonomous driving is going to work in most small European town and villages. There are so many downtowns which were never meant to be used by car and it is already difficult to navigate those places as a human. I just don't see how this should work over here in Europe. Selfdriving on the highway or in a typical suburban sprawl in th…
I actually think that low speed driving and parking in very narrow streets is much easier for an autonomous system than for a person. All those obstacles are made of stone so nice juicy returns for the sensor systems. Carrying out a turn with a centimetre of clearance from a hard surface is much easier for a computer than maintaining lane discipline on a road with faded markings at high speed.
There is a 500 m long street in front of my house where it is customary that people cross it everywhere and cars are just expected to stop for the people. There are no traffic lights or pedestrian crossing or any special rules, its just that people started doing this decades ago and now it is just tradition to do this.
So now you have a long street where tons of people are crossing every 10 meters during the day because it's a quite busy shopping district.
Although cars are driving slow, it must be very hard for autonomous cars because there are people everywhere running in every direction.
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#68"The rear-wheel drive cars will be able to go zero to 60 in less than 4 seconds." Wasn't it like 6 seconds before? Or is this the top level rear-wheel drive version?
He said 6 seconds at the presentation. I think 4 is a typo.
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#69> The Model 3 will come with standard rear-wheel drive, with an option for dual-motor all-wheel drive. It better be fully autonomous if you've ever seen how rear-wheel drive performs in a north-eastern snowstorm. Sure, there's a lot of weight over the back wheels but that sounds crazy to me as the default.
Per Musk, the fast torque response and quality of the computers mean even the RWD version will have better traction than you might expect.