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Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by elros »

nacs wrote: post #131
ttn wrote: post #129

TR citizen here, for the last 10 years only those who are really close to AKP got the government contracts including software like this etc. for stupid amounts of money with no know-how. Therefore this is absolutely normal -at least for us-, only thing that surprised me about this leak is this got into front page of HN. Those software "companies" take millions of liras, usually for stupid CRUD stuff, develop it in li…

> With that info, a terrorist can buy a SIM card for my name Well that escalated quickly.. Terrorists wouldn't need this database to supply them with names and addresses as most of that info is public in most countries (white-pages is one place). And I can go to any local shop and get a pre-paid SIM card without any personal info involved. Also, if your country convicts you merely because someone used your name with…

> And I can go to any local shop and get a pre-paid SIM card without any personal info involved.

Which I gather is fully on-topic as you're a Turk writing from Turkey, right?

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Post by jacquesm »

ttn wrote: post #129

TR citizen here, for the last 10 years only those who are really close to AKP got the government contracts including software like this etc. for stupid amounts of money with no know-how. Therefore this is absolutely normal -at least for us-, only thing that surprised me about this leak is this got into front page of HN. Those software "companies" take millions of liras, usually for stupid CRUD stuff, develop it in li…

It should actually be the other way around. Now that this information is public any kind of link with personally identifiable information should be considered suspect rather than to be used as evidence for wrongdoing without further checking. That information became less valuable with this leak, not more valuable and those things that you could do with that information before should now become harder.

Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by m00dy »

staticelf wrote: post #11

Interesting, in Sweden this kind of data is already public for anyone to view. There is also several sites that provide this information like a search service and it's perfectly legal: http://www.merinfo.se/ http://www.ratsit.se/

Well, I'm turkish and living in Sweden. I can see myself in the dumps as well as in those swedish search services.

Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by ttn »

jacquesm wrote: post #142
ttn wrote: post #129

TR citizen here, for the last 10 years only those who are really close to AKP got the government contracts including software like this etc. for stupid amounts of money with no know-how. Therefore this is absolutely normal -at least for us-, only thing that surprised me about this leak is this got into front page of HN. Those software "companies" take millions of liras, usually for stupid CRUD stuff, develop it in li…

It should actually be the other way around. Now that this information is public any kind of link with personally identifiable information should be considered suspect rather than to be used as evidence for wrongdoing without further checking. That information became less valuable with this leak, not more valuable and those things that you could do with that information before should now become harder.

I learned this leak through HN not TR media. Forget about front page, it is NOT even mentioned.

It is only mentioned by social media website @DikenComTr who are heavy-opposition to AKP regime -related with a NL journalist Frederike Geerdink, just because you are NL I wanted to mention-. Diken journalists love to spend some time in custody time to time and website gets shut down every once in a while.

Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by germanier »

more_original wrote: post #133
staticelf wrote: post #11

Interesting, in Sweden this kind of data is already public for anyone to view. There is also several sites that provide this information like a search service and it's perfectly legal: http://www.merinfo.se/ http://www.ratsit.se/

Interesting. In Germany this database does not even exist. Each town keeps its own data and they are not connected. I think the reason for this are the evil uses of data bases by the Gestapo during Nazi times.

Most states keep all data in a state-wide database and all registers are electronically connected. This is the reason why you don't need to deregister anymore when moving within Germany, a new registration will suffice.

What there isn't is a single central database and if you want to query data you will need to ask different authorities to get it all.

Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by shitgoose »

chrisco255 wrote: post #111
zo1 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What an odd place to put an anti-Trump comment.

Right, because Clinton...who ran her own private email server and sent classified information from her house...is much more qualified when it comes to data security?

Or Bernie, who lost his email password long time ago...

Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by petertodd »

ttn wrote: post #139
ttn wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name and maybe address can be found somehow but identity number absolutely can not be found (should not be from now on). Private companies confirm auth with name, surname, X,Y,Zth number of identity number. You have to provide them name, surname and identity number in order to get a SIM card, in this example. You don't need to be convicted for anything anymore if someone wants you to go to jail :) They get you in and…

To give a little more context, if you are TR citizen what information you use and should keep private is: 1)Identity Number 2)Your mother's pre-marital surname.

My mom never changed her name...

Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by vesinisa »

bemmu wrote: post #73
rhblake wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The mentioned websites contain at least the full name, birthdate, registered address and marital status of every Swedish resident (at least above the age of ~16?), with the exception of a very small percentage of people with protected identity (which you can only get if you're under a "serious and concrete threat"). They get this data straight from the government - it's all public. Go to e.g. http://www.ratsit.se/ ,…

In Finland even salary and capital gains data is released. Newspapers compile high score lists from it each year. There might be some lower limit to how much you need to earn before your data becomes public. Here's some select tidbits from the data in English: http://yle.fi/uutiset/who_are_finlands_top_earners/8427787

You can actually access the public tax information for anyone if you visit the tax office or call their free customer service. Newspapers publicise only the top earners, but nothing stops you from finding out how much your neighbour earned last year in income and capital gains, if you really want to (and I guess quite many want, Finland is after all known as the "land of million of enviers" in addition to the more famous "land of thousand lakes".)

Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by istoica »

ttn wrote: post #129

TR citizen here, for the last 10 years only those who are really close to AKP got the government contracts including software like this etc. for stupid amounts of money with no know-how. Therefore this is absolutely normal -at least for us-, only thing that surprised me about this leak is this got into front page of HN. Those software "companies" take millions of liras, usually for stupid CRUD stuff, develop it in li…

Not only there, in other countries in Europe too, in Romania they are prosecuting the boss of the biggest software company we have, he has to sell his paintings and artwork for not being arrested(bail).

The usual opinion is that they all got rich with state contracts building stupid and expensive things that young kids would do in no time for nothing.

As a government agency, of course one would not prefer to hire kids, but these countries, they have good IT persons, they have universities that are struggling with funds and finance(as education is for free there and state universities are way beyond the private factories of diplomas that are known as private universities).

Instead of throwing that money, they could have helped education and develop infrastructure in the same time. Nobody has bloody consciousness any more!

Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by SixSigma »

more_original wrote: post #133
staticelf wrote: post #11

Interesting, in Sweden this kind of data is already public for anyone to view. There is also several sites that provide this information like a search service and it's perfectly legal: http://www.merinfo.se/ http://www.ratsit.se/

Interesting. In Germany this database does not even exist. Each town keeps its own data and they are not connected. I think the reason for this are the evil uses of data bases by the Gestapo during Nazi times.

> the evil uses of data bases by the Gestapo during Nazi times.

IBM leased them the machines and sold them the punched cards. And then sold them the census data they had collected across Europe during the 1930s.

http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

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