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Tesla Intrigue Deepens with Musk's Twitter Barrage

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Self driving cars don't use GPS, it is not reliable or granular enough.

At all? How would it drive to the mall on the other side of town without GPS?

A map, plus the assumption that it never moves without being powered on.

(I'm sure it does use GPS for navigation. But it's hypothetically possible to do without.)

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It's a typo, it's been clearly stated and reported as less than 6 seconds.

It is also absolutely irrelevant for normal driving. 0 to 100 km / h in 10 seconds or even more is perfectly acceptable, and lower accelerations are actually better for the range.

Well it's handy for keeping pace with middle weight bikes when they're trying to show off I guess :)

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Unveil part 2 is "super next-level". And the "steering controls and system feels like a spaceship" And Musk tweeted a little while ago about getting a special team of Software Engineers reporting directly to him for self-driving that was "top priority" within the company. And there are no gauges directly in front of the driver at all, which has been confirmed to be like that for production. At this point, can it be a…

> At this point, can it be anything other than full autonomous? There is no way that autonomous driving is going to work in most small European town and villages. There are so many downtowns which were never meant to be used by car and it is already difficult to navigate those places as a human. I just don't see how this should work over here in Europe. Selfdriving on the highway or in a typical suburban sprawl in th…

I actually think that low speed driving and parking in very narrow streets is much easier for an autonomous system than for a person. All those obstacles are made of stone so nice juicy returns for the sensor systems. Carrying out a turn with a centimetre of clearance from a hard surface is much easier for a computer than maintaining lane discipline on a road with faded markings at high speed.

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> The Model 3 will come with standard rear-wheel drive, with an option for dual-motor all-wheel drive. It better be fully autonomous if you've ever seen how rear-wheel drive performs in a north-eastern snowstorm. Sure, there's a lot of weight over the back wheels but that sounds crazy to me as the default.

Eh, you may be defeating your own argument there. The main reason that front-wheel drive is better in slick conditions is more weight over the wheels in the typical front engined car. Rear wheel drive may actually be better if the battery pack is sitting on top of it.

That surprises me, given my extensive experience pushing shopping carts vs pulling them.

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Unveil part 2 is "super next-level". And the "steering controls and system feels like a spaceship" And Musk tweeted a little while ago about getting a special team of Software Engineers reporting directly to him for self-driving that was "top priority" within the company. And there are no gauges directly in front of the driver at all, which has been confirmed to be like that for production. At this point, can it be a…

> At this point, can it be anything other than full autonomous? There is no way that autonomous driving is going to work in most small European town and villages. There are so many downtowns which were never meant to be used by car and it is already difficult to navigate those places as a human. I just don't see how this should work over here in Europe. Selfdriving on the highway or in a typical suburban sprawl in th…

One scenario that I keep thinking about all the time: traffic in most south-east asian countries like Vietnam (Hanoi for example). The streets are occupied by a mix of cars, pedestrians (+ animals) and motorcycles. Everything moves ultra close.

Must be a nightmare for every car proximity-sensor.

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Unveil part 2 is "super next-level". And the "steering controls and system feels like a spaceship" And Musk tweeted a little while ago about getting a special team of Software Engineers reporting directly to him for self-driving that was "top priority" within the company. And there are no gauges directly in front of the driver at all, which has been confirmed to be like that for production. At this point, can it be a…

With the oblong steering wheel they mentioned and spaceship like controls, I'm thinking they just don't want the steering wheel sticking up in front of that awesome view. Perhaps an airplane-line yoke? There is the problem of the steering wheel needing to go multiple revolutions, but there do exist some variable ratio steering systems where you might limit rotation to +/-90 degrees but the wheel travel is speed depen…

> Perhaps an airplane-line yoke?

Is there a reason that basically NO car manufacturer has EVER made a production model with steering by anything other than a wheel and pedals?

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I couldn't believe it was gonna be a fully autonomous car long-term until I saw the empty dashboard in the video: http://i.imgur.com/XcUjuDv.jpg

How could it be? The regulations don't allow it. I don't see it happening sooner than 10 years. If so, what is their plan?

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> At this point, can it be anything other than full autonomous? There is no way that autonomous driving is going to work in most small European town and villages. There are so many downtowns which were never meant to be used by car and it is already difficult to navigate those places as a human. I just don't see how this should work over here in Europe. Selfdriving on the highway or in a typical suburban sprawl in th…

Why? What specifically is hard about narrow streets? That actually sounds like the kind of thing a self driving car could excel at. The bigger problem, is imagine, would be weather. I dunno how completely they've solved that problem yet.

Oftentimes there's a two-way street when only one car can pass. Sometimes there are signs for that, but not always. And sometimes you need to check mirror to see if car is approaching from behind the corner before you can proceed.

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> At this point, can it be anything other than full autonomous? There is no way that autonomous driving is going to work in most small European town and villages. There are so many downtowns which were never meant to be used by car and it is already difficult to navigate those places as a human. I just don't see how this should work over here in Europe. Selfdriving on the highway or in a typical suburban sprawl in th…

Why? What specifically is hard about narrow streets? That actually sounds like the kind of thing a self driving car could excel at. The bigger problem, is imagine, would be weather. I dunno how completely they've solved that problem yet.

One of many examples would be a single lane street which goes up a hill and around the corner. Although there is only space for one car you can drive both directions. Rather often than not you have two cars meeting in the middle and then one car has to drive back to let the other car pass. This is pretty difficult to do as a human and I am not sure how an autonomous car would do that.
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