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Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by dijit »

staticelf wrote: post #11

Interesting, in Sweden this kind of data is already public for anyone to view. There is also several sites that provide this information like a search service and it's perfectly legal: http://www.merinfo.se/ http://www.ratsit.se/

Difference being that in Sweden there is a different requiremnet for causing harm (IE; national ID card or passport - or linked bank account) simply having a social security number and address is not enough for identity theft to occur.

in other countries they treat SSN's as private, thus they are trusted.

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Post by tednoob »

marinabercea wrote: post #16
staticelf wrote: post #11

Interesting, in Sweden this kind of data is already public for anyone to view. There is also several sites that provide this information like a search service and it's perfectly legal: http://www.merinfo.se/ http://www.ratsit.se/

The data released contains national identification codes that are confidential. I believe the Swedish equivalent is the 'personnummer'. The sites you indicated appear to be regular person search engines, like the US equivalent Whitepages? Can you show a specific search result, pick any Swedish name you want, that would also list the person's personnummer?

The 'personnummer' is also publicly available, though the sites usually have to limit access in order to comply with Personuppgiftslagen/PuL (Swedish version of the Data Protection Directive).

Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by rhblake »

marinabercea wrote: post #16
staticelf wrote: post #11

Interesting, in Sweden this kind of data is already public for anyone to view. There is also several sites that provide this information like a search service and it's perfectly legal: http://www.merinfo.se/ http://www.ratsit.se/

The data released contains national identification codes that are confidential. I believe the Swedish equivalent is the 'personnummer'. The sites you indicated appear to be regular person search engines, like the US equivalent Whitepages? Can you show a specific search result, pick any Swedish name you want, that would also list the person's personnummer?

The mentioned websites contain at least the full name, birthdate, registered address and marital status of every Swedish resident (at least above the age of ~16?), with the exception of a very small percentage of people with protected identity (which you can only get if you're under a "serious and concrete threat"). They get this data straight from the government - it's all public.

Go to e.g. http://www.ratsit.se/, write "Stockholm" under "Var" and hit "Sök" and click on a name for an example.

You won't see the personal identification number ("personnummer") that we use for absolutely everything, however as tednoob mentions you can get access to this by paying for premium access. Or you can call the Swedish Tax Authority. They don't have the right to ask who you are or why you want someone's number.

Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by marinabercea »

eng_monkey wrote: post #20
staticelf wrote: post #11

Interesting, in Sweden this kind of data is already public for anyone to view. There is also several sites that provide this information like a search service and it's perfectly legal: http://www.merinfo.se/ http://www.ratsit.se/

Amazing. I wonder what the benefit is of having information such as you home address public.

I'd argue there is none, because friends and family already know how to reach you. However, both sites display ads.

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Post by StreamBright »

Grue3 wrote: post #13

Is this HackerNews or DoxingNews? How is doxing the whole country an acceptable submission?

You think that if it is not getting posted on HN than nobody will notice it? What would you qualify HN worthy submission? I did not read the URL just read the comments but it was quite entertaining, HN is not responsible about the content of the submission URLs but it is a great place to discuss the subject with other people.

Re: Turkish Citizenship Database Leaked

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Post by eveningcoffee »

mathetic wrote: post #6

This data is being circulated for a while now. This makes me so angry. It is good that you show the infrastructure is bad, but how stupid does one have to be to say "do something about Erdogan" to the people who are facing identity theft directly due to one's actions? Many companies use date of birth and address for authentication. The only thing that is missing is mother's maiden name, which then would be enough to…

Many companies use date of birth and address for authentication. The only thing that is missing is mother's maiden name, which then would be enough to access confidential information at most banks (though they wouldn't be able to transfer money without authorisation code).

Maybe they should learn a lesson from here - information that you do not control should not be used for authentication. Especially the one that is in its essence public.

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