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Re: Apricity OS: A Beautiful Arch Linux Distro

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Post by timlyo »

striking wrote: post #14

An Arch system with defaults is not an Arch system. The beauty of Arch is that you set it up from head to toe, so you only have the things you need most. And if something breaks, you're more likely to be able to fix it. Accept no substitute. Vanilla Arch forever. (I accept that some people don't care about how the sausages are made. In that case, use Fedora or Debian or Ubuntu, in order of similarity to Arch.)

I use antergos. It has everything I want from Arch (up to date packages, systemd, AUR) but I don't have to spend all the time configuring Arch.

Re: Apricity OS: A Beautiful Arch Linux Distro

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Post by lolidaisuki »

CloudFlrFeedbck wrote: post #15

Can you please whitelist Tor in the Cloudflare settings for this site?

I really apperciate your account. Please keep up the good work.

Fuck people who use the mitm-as-a-service that is CloudFlare.

E: Maybe you should also start criticising HN for trying to block tor. Having to get a new exit node every now and then is a bit annoying. Good that the HN owners are so incompetent.

Re: Apricity OS: A Beautiful Arch Linux Distro

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Post by Svenstaro »

zachrose wrote: post #21
hyperhopper wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you use NixOS to manage your OS and applications and configurations? I thought it was for having reliable reproducable builds?

Nix the package manager is for getting deep control and hard guarantees about your dependencies. NixOS uses Nix, but also gives you ways to 1) specify your system's configuration declaratively from the beginning* and 2) reliably get that configuration running on another machine without having to worry about, say, conflicts with existing dependencies. Or at least that's the theory. In practice I'm mostly still trying…

That means I'll have to rewrite all my (Arch) packages for Nix in order for that to work, right? How does it deal with install scripts (inside upstream packages that you have no control over) that install stuff imperatively?

Re: Apricity OS: A Beautiful Arch Linux Distro

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Post by freekh »

striking wrote: post #14

An Arch system with defaults is not an Arch system. The beauty of Arch is that you set it up from head to toe, so you only have the things you need most. And if something breaks, you're more likely to be able to fix it. Accept no substitute. Vanilla Arch forever. (I accept that some people don't care about how the sausages are made. In that case, use Fedora or Debian or Ubuntu, in order of similarity to Arch.)

Not sure why this downvoted? This is precisely the reason I went with Arch too: it is nothing more than a package system, systemd and a huge wiki that lets you grok how everything works. For everybody else there's a huge amount of distros that does the job fine (better?) without having the hassle of having to know how things are configured and what not...

Re: Apricity OS: A Beautiful Arch Linux Distro

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Post by creshal »

grinich wrote: post #23

Pretty cool to see Nylas N1 featured! (Check the console text)

Do they have actual terms of service by now? When I tried it, I was signed up to their newsletter by simply entering a mail address into the account setup dialog, without any indication that I was opting in to have my personal data harvested and abused.

Re: Apricity OS: A Beautiful Arch Linux Distro

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Post by creshal »

gosukiwi wrote: post #18
iKlsR wrote: post #2

So grab gnome, pusbullet, a dock, paper theme, powerline and maybe play on linux, profit?

I guess it's oriented at people who isn't used to Linux and want a pretty OS to play with, or people too lazy to do it themselves :p

Those people are not going to be happy with Arch.

Re: Apricity OS: A Beautiful Arch Linux Distro

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

striking wrote: post #14

An Arch system with defaults is not an Arch system. The beauty of Arch is that you set it up from head to toe, so you only have the things you need most. And if something breaks, you're more likely to be able to fix it. Accept no substitute. Vanilla Arch forever. (I accept that some people don't care about how the sausages are made. In that case, use Fedora or Debian or Ubuntu, in order of similarity to Arch.)

> (I accept that some people don't care about how the sausages are made. In that case, use Fedora or Debian or Ubuntu, in order of similarity to Arch.)

Or Apricity?

I won't be using this distro, but you've done a seriously poor job of condemning it in favor of some cherry-picked alternatives.

Re: Apricity OS: A Beautiful Arch Linux Distro

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Post by Johnny_Brahms »

striking wrote: post #14

An Arch system with defaults is not an Arch system. The beauty of Arch is that you set it up from head to toe, so you only have the things you need most. And if something breaks, you're more likely to be able to fix it. Accept no substitute. Vanilla Arch forever. (I accept that some people don't care about how the sausages are made. In that case, use Fedora or Debian or Ubuntu, in order of similarity to Arch.)

I like Arch. I would love to have it installed on my laptop, but then I don't want to spend the time actually installing and configuring it. I got fed up with that stuff using linux 15 years ago. I remember the days when you had to write your own device drivers. I don't long for them. In fact, I still cry a bit when I think about that day my RedHat 6 install configured eth0 for me. Imagine: Plugging a network cable in, and it just works! The future is here!

I use Arch for my SoC devices (RPi2 and Odroid XU-4), and for that it is hard to beat. I install what I need, configure it and then forget about it. But for a desktop? I didn't get a computer so that I could spend an hour getting WIFI to work the way I want.

I have built LFS more than a dozen times, I used gentoo for the better part of a decade (back in the days when linux actually was harder to use than osx/windows). I don't have to prove myself worthy any more. Give me an easy way to setup arch with stuff like X, network-manager and media hotkeys working out of the box and I'd switch any day.

So: arch is a very nice distro, but online it has somewhat become what gentoo was in the early 2000: an e-penis enlarger. The only thing it proves is that you have the time and knows how to copy and paste commands from the arch wiki.

Re: Apricity OS: A Beautiful Arch Linux Distro

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Post by mc808 »

jkot wrote: post #24

Transparent shell might look nice, but is useless for work.

On the laptop I find transparency useful to read what's behind the terminal window without constantly flipping back and forth or micromanaging my windows. But I also use a solid-color desktop, so most of the time it's not even apparent that anything is transparent.

Re: Apricity OS: A Beautiful Arch Linux Distro

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Post by crdoconnor »

simula67 wrote: post #7
agumonkey wrote: post #5

Arch is becoming more and more a foundation distro.

Yes and this is great. I have felt Ubuntu to be way too bloated ( last time I checked it had many python scripts running by default on startup ) and Debian is hard to use on the desktop ( "stable" is too slow, "testing" is too unstable ). Arch will make a better foundation distro IMO.

I've found debian and ubuntu to be the best QA'd distros available. Followed by Fedora.

After trying Arch and running into too many irritating bugs that I didn't have the patience to fix I gave up on it.

Plus this didn't give me a good impression of the community's professionalism either: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Manjaro-Devs-Fix-Embarrassing...

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