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Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Post by losteric » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 5:04 AM UTC

scrollaway wrote: post #54

wrong_variable wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finger crossed for some dirt on Hillary.

(Assuming you are a US citizen from your previous comments) Why are you hoping one of your presidential candidates is corrupt? Shouldn't you be crossing your fingers not to find dirt?

Many people have totally lost faith in establishment politicians... our system is constantly exploited by business and even "good" politicians have shady support (through lobbying/superpacs/etc). If a mainstream politician is implicated in this mess, it gives the public concrete evidence to improve the status quo.

It's like the Snowden leaks. Many knew about the NSA conspiracies years before his information came out. For all those years the public was blind to their rights slowly slipping away as precedents were set, while those that knew were ignored as paranoid nutters. Now we can see the light.

edit: to be clear, I'm not talking about any specific politician here.

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Post by xor_null » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 5:23 AM UTC

It's kind of sad, that the data is not really published. I mean i cant go to some side and take a look at the data. Maybe this is one reason:

"The leak is being managed by the grandly but laughably named “International Consortium of Investigative Journalists”, which is funded and organised entirely by the USA’s Center for Public Integrity. Their funders include

- Ford Foundation - Carnegie Endowment - Rockefeller Family Fund - W K Kellogg Foundation - Open Society Foundation (Soros)" [1]

[1] https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/corporate-me...

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Post by tanderson92 » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 5:24 AM UTC

scrollaway wrote: post #54

wrong_variable wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finger crossed for some dirt on Hillary.

(Assuming you are a US citizen from your previous comments) Why are you hoping one of your presidential candidates is corrupt? Shouldn't you be crossing your fingers not to find dirt?

To many people, the sunshine that exposing scandal brings is much needed. Consider the fact that the Church Committee was formed only after Watergate.

Many of us know that establishment politicians are utterly compromised. It's similar to the Edward Snowden revelations. We just need proof.

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Post by xor_null » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 5:25 AM UTC

tomlock wrote: post #9

Is it just me or is this expose surprisingly low on American citizens? Is this one of the times when conspiracy theory could be conspiracy fact? It feels like this is an extremely selective release.

from https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/corporate-me...

"The leak is being managed by the grandly but laughably named “International Consortium of Investigative Journalists”, which is funded and organised entirely by the USA’s Center for Public Integrity. Their funders include

Ford Foundation Carnegie Endowment Rockefeller Family Fund W K Kellogg Foundation Open Society Foundation (Soros)"

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 5:38 AM UTC

losteric wrote: post #71

scrollaway wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Assuming you are a US citizen from your previous comments) Why are you hoping one of your presidential candidates is corrupt? Shouldn't you be crossing your fingers not to find dirt?

Many people have totally lost faith in establishment politicians... our system is constantly exploited by business and even "good" politicians have shady support (through lobbying/superpacs/etc). If a mainstream politician is implicated in this mess, it gives the public concrete evidence to improve the status quo. It's like the Snowden leaks. Many knew about the NSA conspiracies years before his information came out.…

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Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Post by Arry22 » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 6:21 AM UTC

ajmurmann wrote: post #6

Warning: If you click through to the article itself it will automatically start playing music. You might want to turn your volume down if you are in an environment where that would be inappropriate.

What a faggot.

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Post by chvid » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 7:16 AM UTC

Nishioka wrote: post #22

chvid wrote: post #15

I wonder who did the leak? I wonder if the law firm knows who did it and where he is now? My guess is some sys admin presumely at some central office (as this spans the whole company); I mean 2.6TB data - not so easy for an average lawyer to download to his laptop.

Good call and probably European given the choice of paper leaked too.

It is Germany's largest newspaper.

The data probably would have been handed over in person.

My guess is he is German speaking; maybe from Switzerland or Liechtenstein.

But I wonder about doing something like this: He is not exactly protected, what he has done is illegal (at least to some extent - whistleblower laws etc.), he stands to make no personal gains.

One thing is being a high profile whistleblower like Snowden or Assange. But this guy? Where does he end up?

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Post by woodman » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 7:16 AM UTC

a-dub wrote: post #51

It pleases me greatly that the firm is located in Panama, and therefore has a strange sounding name to native English ears and a menacing looking logo that looks like something that walked right on out of a Bond movie. I guess the real world isn't so boring afterall.

Native english ears reporting in, sorry to disappoint you but the name and logo do not strike me as sinister in the least - it looks like the name and logo of a company that would make ink blotters.

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Post by txdv » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 7:34 AM UTC

sshykes wrote: post #14

mikeyouse wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are banking details, passports, drivers license info for thousands of people.. It'd be hugely irresponsible to publish all of that in a Torrent.. Redacted docs are accompanying all of the news reports.

- Passports: Not Secret. - Drivers Licenses: Also Not Secret. - Banking details of the people who have been ripping off the rest of the world...sorry if I fail to see the downside of dumping all of it :) EDIT: At the same time, I understand where you're coming from so thanks for the info mikeyouse!

You see, in a civilized world you would treat people by the same standards that you want to be treated.

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Post by mercer » Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 9:17 AM UTC

scrollaway wrote: post #54

wrong_variable wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finger crossed for some dirt on Hillary.

(Assuming you are a US citizen from your previous comments) Why are you hoping one of your presidential candidates is corrupt? Shouldn't you be crossing your fingers not to find dirt?

Many people are already convinced that Hillary is corrupt. When that is the case, finding dirt is a desirable thing.

(I don't have strong opinions on the matter, by the way.)