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Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/56febff0a1bb8d3... >Generally speaking, owning an offshore company is not illegal in itself. In fact, establishing an offshore company can be seen as a logical step for a broad range of business transactions. However, a look through the Panama Papers very quickly reveals that concealing the identities of the true company owners was the primary aim in the vast majority of c…

Even if concealing your identity isn't illegal, you may be concealing it because you're involved in something shady. Like tax evasion.

You wouldn't describe your position on cryptography and privacy in general as "moderate" by any chance?

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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I wonder who did the leak? I wonder if the law firm knows who did it and where he is now? My guess is some sys admin presumely at some central office (as this spans the whole company); I mean 2.6TB data - not so easy for an average lawyer to download to his laptop.

Good call and probably European given the choice of paper leaked too.

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I think less quality coverage, but interesting to watch the news spread through media here: - https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-aides-among-world-leaders-e... - https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/associates-of-... - http://www.usatoday.com/ (prominent on front page) - http://time.com/4280200/panama-papers-vladimir-putin-russia-... - newyorktimes.com buried under politics http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/04/us…

No leaks involving Americans (yet).

Don't expect to hear much on that front: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/corporate-me...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No leaks involving Americans (yet).

Don't expect to hear much on that front: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/corporate-me...

Editor says there may be some:

https://twitter.com/ploechinger/status/716773530436825088

https://twitter.com/ploechinger/status/716763595820941312

Also, I hope journalists are asking the "accused" for their comments, and giving them time to respond, as journalistic best practice.

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Is it just me or is this expose surprisingly low on American citizens? Is this one of the times when conspiracy theory could be conspiracy fact? It feels like this is an extremely selective release.

It's definitely a very focused search. There will almost certainly be more coverage over the coming days/weeks. It is reported that a full list of names and companies linked will be released in early May. http://www.irishtimes.com/business/what-are-the-panama-paper...

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Is it just me or is this expose surprisingly low on American citizens? Is this one of the times when conspiracy theory could be conspiracy fact? It feels like this is an extremely selective release.

From the Reddit live thread: The Editor in Chief of Süddeutsche Zeitung responded to the lack of United States individuals in the documents, saying to "Just wait for what is coming next".

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are banking details, passports, drivers license info for thousands of people.. It'd be hugely irresponsible to publish all of that in a Torrent.. Redacted docs are accompanying all of the news reports.

- Passports: Not Secret. - Drivers Licenses: Also Not Secret. - Banking details of the people who have been ripping off the rest of the world...sorry if I fail to see the downside of dumping all of it :) EDIT: At the same time, I understand where you're coming from so thanks for the info mikeyouse!

> At the same time, I understand where you're coming from so thanks for the info mikeyouse!

I know right. But don't worry, sshykes, history repeats itself. :) There's always some great revolution that would wipe out corporate hypocrites off the face of this planet (I think ageing does that too). :-)

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Can someone explain me if reading these documents is even legal for journalists? I mean I am pretty sure most of the people that used that law office are completely innocent and having their personal information leaked and now read and investigated by some journalists is kind of crime in its own, I would not want my legal papers stolen and read by anybody if I am doing everything according to the law.

My question is - what legal right do these journalists have to read this confidential information?

Re: Panama Papers - 2.6TB leak on offshore tax havens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if concealing your identity isn't illegal, you may be concealing it because you're involved in something shady. Like tax evasion.

You wouldn't describe your position on cryptography and privacy in general as "moderate" by any chance?

I don't think those two things are analogous. Being an owner of a company is something decidedly public. It has nothing to do with encryption or privacy.
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