Apple wants the FBI to reveal how it hacked the San Bernardino killer's iPhone

Post by tarpherder » Wed, Mar 30, 2016, 7:11 PM UTC

AkodoRyu wrote: post #56

tarpherder wrote: post #36

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What lock do you have on your door? Something standard like this: http://goo.gl/cuIenh (Image of lock)? That can be opened easily in a number of seconds without damaging the lock with at least 2 well known techniques. Yet that is the lock installed on new doors on peoples homes. They don't care, people don't want/need actual security they just want to keep the idiot burglars out and be able to claim the value of thei…

Where do you live, that new homes have locks like those? Because here new houses pretty much require class C anti-burglar doors (which roughly means, they should be impenetrable in less than 10 minutes) - they have non-standard keys and complicated locking mechanisms, door-frame is locked into concrete etc. etc. Otherwise cost of your insurance will go through the roof.

Post by incepted » Wed, Mar 30, 2016, 10:22 PM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #95

incepted wrote: post #9

I really find this whole thing hilarious. First, it's Apple sticking it to the FBI by making a stand for privacy and receiving public accolades doing so as a champion of privacy. The FBI is the bad guy trying to invade our privacy. Now, it's the FBI sending a giant "screw you" to Apple by not only letting them know they were able to hack into the phone without Apple's help but at the same time, making a mockery of Ap…

This certainly isn't how it looks to me. The FBI comes off looking like complete fools to me. They said that they needed Apple's help to get into this phone, that there was no other way, and that Apple's refusal to help endangered national security, humanity, and the universe. Then they got called in front of Congress and schooled by a Congressman, one of the last places you'd expect to find anyone remotely technical…

Post by okonomiyaki3000 » Thu, Mar 31, 2016, 12:01 AM UTC

amdavidson wrote: post #90

AkodoRyu wrote: post #56

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Where do you live, that new homes have locks like those? Because here new houses pretty much require class C anti-burglar doors (which roughly means, they should be impenetrable in less than 10 minutes) - they have non-standard keys and complicated locking mechanisms, door-frame is locked into concrete etc. etc. Otherwise cost of your insurance will go through the roof.

Where do you live such that those things are required to get a decent insurance rate? My insurance never mentioned a single one of those requirements.

Post by Swannie » Thu, Mar 31, 2016, 4:48 AM UTC

crb wrote: post #18

riotdash wrote: post #4

Ask these guys, not the feds: http://www.cellebrite.com/Pages/cellebrite-solution-for-lock... You are welcome Apple.

The San Bernadino phone was running iOS 9. (It's reasonable to assume that if there was a vulnerability in 8.x, Apple would want to have fixed it in 9.)

Post by mcphage » Sun, Apr 03, 2016, 3:10 AM UTC

daxfohl wrote: post #128

mcphage wrote: post #126

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If only it was really about just that phone, and didn't create a month long media circus power grab only to end it with "uh.... nevermind."

Of course it makes them look bad to anyone who thinks their looking good looks bad.