Debian 8.4 released • Hacker News Board

Re: Debian 8.4 released

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Post by andyking » Sat, Apr 02, 2016, 5:36 PM UTC

elipsey wrote: post #3

I don't get it either. Also, I see no new packages from the US ftp. Is it still April Fools Day?

I've got a few new packages from the UK FTP site today, but if you've been keeping up to date generally there shouldn't be many updates.

This update is mainly for install media, so people installing fresh don't have to download months of updates before configuring their system for the first time.

Re: Debian 8.4 released

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Post by riscy » Sat, Apr 02, 2016, 5:41 PM UTC

corybrown wrote: post #2

I'm surprised that this is top of HN right now. It's a minor release with security updates already present on up to date machines. Can someone enlighten me?

For me it was a nice reminder to update my Debian server.

Re: Debian 8.4 released

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Post by moon_of_moon » Sat, Apr 02, 2016, 5:47 PM UTC

First release since Ians passing?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/30/ian_murdock_debian_f...

BTW does anyone have any color on what the heck happened that night?

Re: Debian 8.4 released

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Post by puzzlingcaptcha » Sat, Apr 02, 2016, 5:49 PM UTC

kolom wrote: post #8

I saw this while the update command was running over ssh, coincidence?

In fact, no.

Re: Debian 8.4 released

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Post by justinmayer » Sat, Apr 02, 2016, 5:53 PM UTC

While we're on the topic of Debian, am I the only one who finds it odd that Debian Jessie is apparently never going to support HTTP/2? It seems an unfortunate decision was made at some point to skip OpenSSL 1.0.2:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=767661

Nowhere have I been able to find any information regarding plans to backport OpenSSL 1.0.2+ to Jessie. With Google turning off SPDY in Chrome next month, the lack of HTTP/2 support makes Debian a rather poor environment as a web server.

I hope someone will point out that I'm wrong and that I've horribly misunderstood the current state of affairs. Otherwise, it seems like strong motivation to migrate our web applications to Ubuntu Xenial.

Re: Debian 8.4 released

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Post by elipsey » Sat, Apr 02, 2016, 6:14 PM UTC

andyking wrote: post #11

elipsey wrote: post #3

I don't get it either. Also, I see no new packages from the US ftp. Is it still April Fools Day?

I've got a few new packages from the UK FTP site today, but if you've been keeping up to date generally there shouldn't be many updates. This update is mainly for install media, so people installing fresh don't have to download months of updates before configuring their system for the first time.

your right, my version number just went up while i wasn't looking :)

$ cat /etc/debian_version 8.4

Re: Debian 8.4 released

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Post by Ambroos » Sat, Apr 02, 2016, 6:18 PM UTC

justinmayer wrote: post #15

While we're on the topic of Debian, am I the only one who finds it odd that Debian Jessie is apparently never going to support HTTP/2? It seems an unfortunate decision was made at some point to skip OpenSSL 1.0.2: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=767661 Nowhere have I been able to find any information regarding plans to backport OpenSSL 1.0.2+ to Jessie. With Google turning off SPDY in Chrome next mo…

Nope, it's accurate (and a shame). We've split up our SSL termination for this exact reason. Instead of doing SSL and HTTP/2 on our application servers themselves, we put a box with Debian Stretch in front of it doing just proxying and stapling on HTTP/2 + SSL. Since the box has just one very limited responsibility that's easy to test we can afford running unstable software at that point.

Re: Debian 8.4 released

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Post by bubuga » Sat, Apr 02, 2016, 6:41 PM UTC

corybrown wrote: post #2

I'm surprised that this is top of HN right now. It's a minor release with security updates already present on up to date machines. Can someone enlighten me?

I upvoted the submission, mainly because Debian doesn't get the publicity and the recognition it deserves. Debian deserves a little love once in a while.

Re: Debian 8.4 released

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Post by simonebrunozzi » Sat, Apr 02, 2016, 6:56 PM UTC

Let's talk about Linux on laptops: am I the only one perennially debating between Debian and Ubuntu?

I love Debian, but Ubuntu seems to have better support.

What do you guys think?

Re: Debian 8.4 released

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Post by chx » Sat, Apr 02, 2016, 7:14 PM UTC

simonebrunozzi wrote: post #19

Let's talk about Linux on laptops: am I the only one perennially debating between Debian and Ubuntu? I love Debian, but Ubuntu seems to have better support. What do you guys think?

This won't be the answer you are looking for but let's face some bitter truth: I have been running Linux on my laptops since 2004 and in my experience it's always a struggle (servers since 1993 are happy, it's the desktop that suffers). As of right now, this struggle no longer worths it. Just use Winux (my made up name for the Ubuntu userspace under Windows 10 plus perhaps Xming).