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Re: Facebook is ruining Instagram

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Post by dave2000 »

Retric wrote: post #38
pmarreck wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least on iPhone, the web app is less resource-hoggy and just as featureful. Most of the social events I go to are now typically organized via Facebook; the non-FB people require a separate email which is an extra step that is not taken 100% of the time.

>an extra step that is not taken 100% of the time. IMO, that's often a feature not a bug.

Yeah, I used to think that way. Thing is, while you're sitting at home feeling superior because you don't use that horrible mainstream website that all those terrible peasants are using and would stop using if only they knew how bad it was and how it's all about the money, your friends are all out there having fun at events they've organised on facebook and not quite ever got around to emailing all the bold, independent people who are too good for it.

Re: Facebook is ruining Instagram

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Post by criley2 »

Odinly wrote: post #45
blakesterz wrote: post #19

The closing line: >> It is stealing me as much time as they can. They are fighting to get my attention span, only to feed me with more ads. They are just like the television. That's an interesting point. Seems like that can be applied to a long list of sites/apps now (or maybe it's always been like that, not sure now is any different).

Well its apt that Mark Zuckerberg gets the blame then. There really should be a weekly game. Top score to the person with the most items added to the list - If Mark Zuckerberg was running Wikipedia: 1. Everybody in the world would need an account to access it. 2. The most liked parts of a topic, lets say Linear Algebra, would appear before everything else on the topic. 3. A "free basics" version of Wikipedia would be…

>"Next week we play, if Mark Zuckerberg was running Linux."

I prefer the game "Crucify Mark Zuckerberg for following Google's lead".

Although every day is that game around here :)

Re: Facebook is ruining Instagram

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Post by tootie »

iamleppert wrote: post #17

Just stop using the app; lots of people I know have already stopped using Facebook. I don't even have it installed on my phone anymore.

I have only ever used Facebook on mobile web and it's perfectly sufficient. I don't want push notifications ever, so it's not a problem. The one friend who actually posts anything that is relevant to my interests and not totally inane is my best buddy Suggested Post.

Re: Facebook is ruining Instagram

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Post by pekk »

criley2 wrote: post #54
Odinly wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well its apt that Mark Zuckerberg gets the blame then. There really should be a weekly game. Top score to the person with the most items added to the list - If Mark Zuckerberg was running Wikipedia: 1. Everybody in the world would need an account to access it. 2. The most liked parts of a topic, lets say Linear Algebra, would appear before everything else on the topic. 3. A "free basics" version of Wikipedia would be…

>"Next week we play, if Mark Zuckerberg was running Linux." I prefer the game "Crucify Mark Zuckerberg for following Google's lead". Although every day is that game around here :)

That's a bizarre complaint. Companies like Google, Apple, and Facebook (and their CEOs) are all routinely discussed and criticized here. Nobody is "crucified" and it is in no way specific to Facebook. Nor is HN somehow unique as a place where Facebook is criticized. Why so sensitive on Zuckerberg's behalf?

Re: Facebook is ruining Instagram

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Post by Raphmedia »

dave2000 wrote: post #49
Raphmedia wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ads are malware to the mind. I don't want to eat fast-food, but they will use shiny pictures, bright colors, reverse psychology, "everyone else eat burgers" tactics, etc. to make me want it. They are little squares of manipulation.

Ah, but not everyone eats fast food, so there must be a way to resist them.

Willpower.

Your willpower is low when you are tired or in an advanced state of mind.

Take a look at decision fatigue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_fatigue

"Decision fatigue can influence irrational impulse purchases at supermarkets. During a trip to the supermarket, trade-off decisions regarding prices and promotions can produce decision fatigue, hence by the time the shopper reaches the cash register, less willpower remains to resist impulse purchases of candy and sugared items."

We are bombarded with ads, which we discard, but every time we discard one, it tires us.

Re: Facebook is ruining Instagram

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Post by criley2 »

pekk wrote: post #57
criley2 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"Next week we play, if Mark Zuckerberg was running Linux." I prefer the game "Crucify Mark Zuckerberg for following Google's lead". Although every day is that game around here :)

That's a bizarre complaint. Companies like Google, Apple, and Facebook (and their CEOs) are all routinely discussed and criticized here. Nobody is "crucified" and it is in no way specific to Facebook. Nor is HN somehow unique as a place where Facebook is criticized. Why so sensitive on Zuckerberg's behalf?

Not bizarre at all. I strongly disagree that companies like Google, Apple and Facebook are equivalently criticized and, in fact, I find that each one has the "primary criticism" and the "we don't talk about it" part of the business that is oddly ignored.

For Google, "we don't talk about" their aggressive and abusing advertising practices, even though they themselves have written the book on invasive online advertising and monetization of free users. Instead, we criticize Facebook mainly for it. Nearly every thread on privacy attacks Zuckerberg by name while not even mentioning the Google corporation in abstract. Just an observation.

"Why so sensitive on Zuckerberg's behalf?"

Why do you choose to attack me personally for posting an observation about discussion here?

You claim that all are routinely criticized, so could you verify that by showing a conversation here which criticizes a Google executive by name for their advertising practices? I can find literally hundreds of conversations doing it to Zuck, but literally zero conversations criticizing ANY Google executive by name. Just an observation, of course.

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