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Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by pveierland »

manav wrote: post #117

I'm actually going to reduce my reservation to one car now. Pretty disappointed at the design, it looks like a Prius. For the price point, I would obviously still buy one... but the hatchback style is not as appealing for a mid level luxury car that may compete with a MB C-class or BMW 3-series. They could have made it look like an Audi A4 sedan, with an available hatchback, but I think that would cannibalize Model S…

Taste is of course subjective, but when looking at good pictures of the car it looks pretty sweet:

http://imgur.com/a/V0BxU

I think the front is very clean, and seen from above and behind the large rear window makes it look great. In my book this is way better than a Prius.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by mikeyouse »

jonkiddy wrote: post #99

115k reservations in 24 hours. $115m. That is an excellent first day. Assuming there aren't many cancelations, ~$4B+ total by 4Q 2016. Very nice. However, I don't think the hype matched the presentation.

Q42018... Sales won't start until the end of 2017 (if things stay on schedule) and production will likely ramp up, I'd be surprised if they sell 100k Model 3s in the first year. Still, the average revenue to Tesla will probably be on the higher end, $45-$50k since they'll likely prioritize the performance versions as they've done for the S and the X so far, so 100k x $45k still gets you to $4.5B.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by Cookingboy »

usaphp wrote: post #83

Wow, I don't really know how bmw or mercedes are going to compete with model 3. Tesla does not look worse than 3 series and C class, is faster and is almost free to run. And the base bmw 3 series starts at $33,200 and it is almost empty inside...It will be an interesting couple years for auto industry for sure.

Design is pretty subjective, personally I think this is far more attractive and looks way more premium:

http://images.car.bauercdn.com/upload/32029/images/1040x585/...

Interior:

http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/547435/2015-merce...

http://preview.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class-2015-160...

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by usaphp »

dragontamer wrote: post #145
usaphp wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "for a luxury car" Since when is a car under 35K is considered luxury?

35k is definitely a luxury vehicle. Brand new cars like Honda Fit and Ford Focus are $15k. Nissan Maxima / Honda Accord is ~$22k starting. $35k is where BMW and Lexus start. He's still competing against the luxury segment, but "entry" luxury.

I disagree, bmw 3 series and basic Lexus are not "luxury" cars, they are called "Premium" cars. Luxury cars are Porshes, Maseratti, Bentley, bmw 6 series, mercedes CLS etc... Honda Fit and Ford Focus are small budget cars, Nissan maxima and accord are regular sedans. If you call bmw 3 series a luxury car - then what would you call a porshe than?

Edit: Mercedec CLA is considered a luxury vehicle in a different class (just like you mentioned SUVs and trucks), it's a compact car, compact cars have a different starting price compared to the class we were talking about, thus it's considered luxury in that class.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by _ph_ »

agumonkey wrote: post #181

I may be that paranoid, but the glass roof feels as thrilling as scary. What happens if something drops on it ? if the car ends up tumbling ? the roll cage is probably as sturdy as anything Tesla did before but that seems like a too large open spot ..

It should be multi-layer safety glass like the front window. Those are very tough as they keep shape even when shattered.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by usaphp »

WrkInProgress wrote: post #140
usaphp wrote: post #83

Wow, I don't really know how bmw or mercedes are going to compete with model 3. Tesla does not look worse than 3 series and C class, is faster and is almost free to run. And the base bmw 3 series starts at $33,200 and it is almost empty inside...It will be an interesting couple years for auto industry for sure.

A couple of counter points 1.) Design is subjective. I for one think while the Model S looks great, the X and 3 do not look that attractive. 2.) I really don't think "faster" really means much when are you talking about the majority of the mainstream automobile market. Top speed is low on the list of priorities for the average consumer. 3.) Cheaper is not free. I would save about $70 (based on today's gas prices in O…

> "Tesla struggled to get 50,000 cars out last year. BMW sold north of 2 million cars in 2015"

Please do not compare all the models BMW sold with a single Tesla Model S. BMW only sold 142,000 of 3 series in 2014. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01/bmw-3-series-sales-figu...

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by dang »

bronz wrote: post #33
dang wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We changed it to the page title, which is what the HN guidelines ask you to use in the first place, unless it is misleading or linkbait.

Thank you for simply correcting it instead of just deleting it. I didn't mean to do that.

You're most welcome, but just so you know, we'd never delete a story for that reason. That would be an awful lot of deletion :)

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by usaphp »

Cookingboy wrote: post #203
usaphp wrote: post #83

Wow, I don't really know how bmw or mercedes are going to compete with model 3. Tesla does not look worse than 3 series and C class, is faster and is almost free to run. And the base bmw 3 series starts at $33,200 and it is almost empty inside...It will be an interesting couple years for auto industry for sure.

Design is pretty subjective, personally I think this is far more attractive and looks way more premium: http://images.car.bauercdn.com/upload/32029/images/1040x585/... Interior: http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/547435/2015-merce... http://preview.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class-2015-160...

The C Class you've linked starts at 40,000$ and featurewise it's empty inside, you will need to add an extra $10K to get all the features basic model 3 has.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by usaphp »

jd20 wrote: post #126
usaphp wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "for a luxury car" Since when is a car under 35K is considered luxury?

It's all relative. I think many would consider a $35k BMW a "luxury" in comparison to a $15k Honda.

Ok, if they consider $35K BMW a luxury car, then how would they call a $90K Porshe? Or $300K Rolls-Royce?
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