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Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by iamcreasy »

valine wrote: post #93
aresant wrote: post #55

I love Tesla the company and respect the hell out of Elon. But his presentation style is hard to watch - he is literally stammering through what feels like a dry script. I've never seen him live before is this par for the course or nerves? Edit - wow that is a better looking car than I expected. You can be as awkward serving as you like if that's the main course!

I rather like his presentation style. For some reason it strikes me as genuine, like he's someone I can relate with and look up to. He doesn't need to be a flashy salesman because his projects will sell themselves.

Exactly, I can pay attentions to what Elon Musk is saying. Wheres others usually try to sugarcoat it. Says the same thing over and over again, and it gets really frustrating.

But Elon Musk jumps right to the point, and doesn't beat around the bush.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by rsync »

suprgeek wrote: post #89

Very clean looks also: 215 Miles Range with 0-60 in 6secs, Seats 5 will have autodrive tech all for $35,000 Deliveries begin end of 2017 (Hopefully) This is truly a mass market full electric car. We may be seeing something on the lines of the iPhone - a category busting product.

"with 0-60 in 6secs"

This part confuses me.

The very fast 0-60 times that you see in electric cars are a function not of their massive engines or super tuned turbos, but of their instantaneous torque (as they are electric).

Given that this is an electric car, and that its size and weight are commensurable to the (presumably) smaller electric motor, I would expect it to have similar 0-60 times.

I just assumed that whenever this car was released it would have <4 second times ... why wouldn't it ?

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by FullyFunctional »

andersen1488 wrote: post #138
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> almost free to run Legit question: How much does a Tesla cost to recharge? I mean assuming you do it in your home and not at a free charging station. Are we talking $1/charge? $5? 50c? I just want a frame of reference. I'm talking raw electricity only (and obviously based on some average rate).

The Model S comes with a standard 60 kwH battery, which at an average rate of $0.20/kwH for electricity in the US, that's about $12.00 to fill it up for 250 miles range.

60 kWh was phased out long ago. Minimal is 70 kWh now with 90 kWh being the high end.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by reportingsjr »

greglindahl wrote: post #123
manav wrote: post #117

I'm actually going to reduce my reservation to one car now. Pretty disappointed at the design, it looks like a Prius. For the price point, I would obviously still buy one... but the hatchback style is not as appealing for a mid level luxury car that may compete with a MB C-class or BMW 3-series. They could have made it look like an Audi A4 sedan, with an available hatchback, but I think that would cannibalize Model S…

You can't make a car with low drag without it being a hatchback. And low drag is key to reasonable battery size.

Yep, the design is called a K-tail. I've really started getting used to it and don't mind it at all any more.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by manav »

greglindahl wrote: post #123
manav wrote: post #117

I'm actually going to reduce my reservation to one car now. Pretty disappointed at the design, it looks like a Prius. For the price point, I would obviously still buy one... but the hatchback style is not as appealing for a mid level luxury car that may compete with a MB C-class or BMW 3-series. They could have made it look like an Audi A4 sedan, with an available hatchback, but I think that would cannibalize Model S…

You can't make a car with low drag without it being a hatchback. And low drag is key to reasonable battery size.

True. Some design elements still seem strange to me, but perhaps it was optimized for efficiency?. There is no front grille for instance. While there is no need for one on an electric car, the Tesla still has an indent for one.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by fumar »

It's exciting to see the model 3 take more hatchback proportions. I hope it brings the hatch functionality to a more mainstream US audience. It also solidifies the global nature of Tesla. Hatchbacks and wagons are commonplace in Europe – oftentimes preferred over an SUV or sedan.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by aerovistae »

greglindahl wrote: post #123
manav wrote: post #117

I'm actually going to reduce my reservation to one car now. Pretty disappointed at the design, it looks like a Prius. For the price point, I would obviously still buy one... but the hatchback style is not as appealing for a mid level luxury car that may compete with a MB C-class or BMW 3-series. They could have made it look like an Audi A4 sedan, with an available hatchback, but I think that would cannibalize Model S…

You can't make a car with low drag without it being a hatchback. And low drag is key to reasonable battery size.

I believe you, but can you provide a source or explanation for that insight?

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by mikeash »

mehrdada wrote: post #96

He mentioned it has autopilot hardware standard (like the current Model S), which makes me suspect you have to pay a few thousand dollars more to unlock it in software.

He said autopilot safety features will be standard, which means the convenience features (lane keeping, automatic parking, etc.) will cost extra. Just like the S and X.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by jd20 »

mehrdada wrote: post #82
valine wrote: post #43

> If you buy a conventional car, your interaction with the people who made it has ended. With Tesla, that interaction has only just begun. There's something unnerving about this. Your car has access to so much information about you. Where you go, where you work, what stores you like to shop at, and what restaurants you like. To me, a car is a tool. When I purchase a car, I'm purchasing The engine, the wheels, and the…

I believe most modern cars you buy today (even low-end ones) have a GSM modem connected to a phone carrier which is probably active regardless of your payment for the "connected" features, so not much better unless you figure out a way to pull its power.

You could remove the SIM card I suppose. On some cars this is super easy (it just pops right out of the dash), on the Model S unfortunately its a lot harder to access (but still doable). And while most cars seem designed to do just fine when you pop out the SIM, nothing prevents Tesla from making the car inoperable without the SIM (I have no idea what the current behavior is, just speculating).

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

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Post by JoshuaJB »

alvern wrote: post #69
mattbeckman wrote: post #14

Just reserved mine. Of course, I double checked the terms to make sure it was refundable, but I'm ready for it to change the game.

Over 115k reservations in 24hours! This is going to put serious pressure on other auto makers to step up their game.

In comparison, Nissan only sold 170k LEAFs from 2010-2015.[1] Three years of Nissan LEAF sales in 24h? Fantastic!

[1] http://evobsession.com/nissan-leaf-sales-climb-to-over-17000...

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