Why Apple and Google are struggling to design simple software • Hacker News Board

Re: Why Apple and Google are struggling to design simple software

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Post by sklogic » Thu, Mar 31, 2016, 8:06 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #69

sklogic wrote: post #49

Are they? Really? With awful languages like Java?!? They're at the bleeding edge of the overengineering, nowhere close to anything "simple". Edit: downvoters are incompetent retards who know nothing about simplicity.

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And why should I care? I value truth far more than all that stupid politeness and tolerance to the inferior. If HN fundamental values are different I should stay as far away from it as possible.

Re: Why Apple and Google are struggling to design simple software

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Post by npunt » Thu, Mar 31, 2016, 10:21 PM UTC

dredmorbius wrote: post #70

npunt wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for sharing this, I've looked but haven't read enough on accessibility in real world use cases. Have you tried the iPad with anyone there? It may ratchet down the complexity some, and the accessibility features are very good.

Users are also very nearly pathalogically averse to new tech and devices. The suggestion has been made however.

I know exactly what you mean. One technique I've used is to express things in terms of what they can uniquely get with the new system that relates to their needs. In the case of iPads, some of the accessibility benefits such as requiring less fine motor control may tip the balance in favor of adoption for some. Best of luck!

Re: Why Apple and Google are struggling to design simple software

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Post by dang » Sun, Apr 03, 2016, 6:53 PM UTC

sklogic wrote: post #71

dang wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the HN guidelines despite our requests to stop. If you don't want it to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com.

And why should I care? I value truth far more than all that stupid politeness and tolerance to the inferior. If HN fundamental values are different I should stay as far away from it as possible.

I understand and sympathize with that position a lot, but it doesn't port to HN. It isn't that HN's fundamental values are different, it's that we operate under constraints.

Perhaps we can discuss this offline. I'll send you an email.