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The Little-Known Firm Helping the FBI Crack iPhones

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Re: The Little-Known Firm Helping the FBI Crack iPhones

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> "... built its business on pinball game machines and stumbled into the mobile phone security business almost by accident." (first paragraph) Pinball? In Japan? this isn't going to be pinball. > "has been building pinball-like game machines found in Japan’s pachinko parlors since the 1970s" (third paragraph). So it isn't pinball at all, it's pachinko. I know this is almost besides the point, but do Bloomberg really…

Because worldwide recognition of golf is on a par with pachinko?

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A bit unfair since "pinball machine" used to refer to exactly what a pachinko machine is for a couple of hundred years before the "modern pinball" arrived. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinball has the first bagatelle spring plunger around 1750 and flippers around 1947)

IMO it's a difference worth mentioning when pachinko is a big enough addiction there to make $187B in 2014 (vs US casinos $65.6B) and cause child deaths (while I was there, maybe is better now) https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1370&dat=19960702&id=... I get a different sense of lucre when I hear "left the pinball industry for better margins" (pocket change gaming) vs left the gambling industry (life savings gam…

The revenues from Pachinko are complex and should not be directly compared to a trackable traceable business.

Pachinko is the primary method for the Yakuza to launder money, there's a reason there's one on every corner. Cash for tickets, tickets for cash/prizes. Clean money.

The addicts are a bonus.

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Cellebrite is an Israeli company, not Japanese. They are owned by a Japanese parent company, but I'd argue that is not the same. Volkswagen owning 100% of Lamborghini does not make the latter a german car manufacturer.

Yeah, I'd say that this is actually a piece intended to try to prevent any political fallout with a close ally of the US (Israel) at the expense of the nuclear whipping boy (Japan).

I'd say that in many ways Japan is more important an ally than Israel.

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Yeah, I'd say that this is actually a piece intended to try to prevent any political fallout with a close ally of the US (Israel) at the expense of the nuclear whipping boy (Japan).

I'd say that in many ways Japan is more important an ally than Israel.

Far more importantly, strategically. But Japan has a fairly firm and stable political position compared to Israel. So it does not weigh on either side.

Re: The Little-Known Firm Helping the FBI Crack iPhones

#28

> "... built its business on pinball game machines and stumbled into the mobile phone security business almost by accident." (first paragraph) Pinball? In Japan? this isn't going to be pinball. > "has been building pinball-like game machines found in Japan’s pachinko parlors since the 1970s" (third paragraph). So it isn't pinball at all, it's pachinko. I know this is almost besides the point, but do Bloomberg really…

While pachinko is huge in Japan, pinball is also very popular. Source: My Uncle worked for Williams pinball, and Japan is where they made most of their money.

It was huge in the past but nowadays shows signs of a dying industry.

http://thisishansu.com/language/en/pachinko-gambling-busines...

Re: The Little-Known Firm Helping the FBI Crack iPhones

#29

So basically the NSA/CIA develop the tech, license it to a contractor, who the FBI can then hire. Got it. I bet they know who to use it on before they even need to through Parallel Construction too. This is what the future looks like.

That's just speculation.
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